Doktor Avalanche
Is your first CPU core peaking?

Nope! No burden on the CPU; the meter is completely clear of activity.
 
I start a new blank project ("Normal" template), insert an instance of Virus Control (VC), enable the LIVE button as I have done for years up to this point, play a few notes and notice a lag...like a SUPER-MEGA lag of about 6-7 seconds!
 
If I turn off the LIVE button, and key-play, the the sound is a little more sync'ed.  If I hit the transport PLAY button in Sonar and key a few notes, the lag is MASSIVE, like an apparent 500ms to 1sec!  Then I enable the PDC button in Sonar, proceed to key a few notes, and there is NO lag.  If I disable the PDC button and repeat, the lag comes back.
 
Not looking good at this point.
 
EDIT: And Sonar is frequently hanging, white-screen of "almost death."
 
EDIT: It may be the VST3 version of Virus Control that is causing the issue.  The VST2 may be working OK.  Still evaluating.
 
Overall, if I get more problems, I will post in the proper section...

The Start Screen is faster but still too slow for my taste. They did fix the issue I was having not being able to open projects that had the apostrophe in the path. That's nice.
 
I also had my first crash in a very long time. I was working in the Staff View entering lyrics. using copy and paste so I did not have to retype the lyrics when the crash occurred.  It was able to send a dump to the bakers and I have not been able to duplicate the issue so hopefully it was a one off.
 
Seems to be running fine here playing back no odd processor spikes or anything.

irvin
I have made bold the part where you claim that pre-roll has to be long enough to "get to the vocal booth, put on the headphones and start listening". As I replied, Pre-roll has nothing to do with that.

 
We'll leave aside the deceptive quoting, your avoiding the issue I raised, and your distorting what I said, because everyone reading this realizes that's how you roll. Here's the definition of pre-roll from wikiaudio.org:
 
Pre roll is an allotted amount of time that plays prior to the start of recording on a tape machine, DAW or other linear sound recording medium or device.
 
I was describing what I do during the allotted amount of time that plays prior to the start of recording. Refer to the above definition. Next.
 

And your childish attemps at riling "the masses" against me are just more of your silly and obtuse nature.

 
 
The people who frequent this forum can read. Doesn't work to your advantage.
 

You are the dishonest one - and you have been exposed. I have no respect for you.

 
Good! I consider it an honor not to have the respect of someone who hides behind a phony name and makes defamatory comments. Either address the issue I raised about your trying to pass off your words as mine, or stop wasting our time.

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Doktor Avalanche
Is your first CPU core peaking?

Nope! No burden on the CPU; the meter is completely clear of activity.
 
I start a new blank project ("Normal" template), insert an instance of Virus Control (VC), enable the LIVE button as I have done for years up to this point, play a few notes and notice a lag...like a SUPER-MEGA lag of about 6-7 seconds!
 
If I turn off the LIVE button, and key-play, the the sound is a little more sync'ed.  If I hit the transport PLAY button in Sonar and key a few notes, the lag is MASSIVE, like an apparent 500ms to 1sec!  Then I enable the PDC button in Sonar, proceed to key a few notes, and there is NO lag.  If I disable the PDC button and repeat, the lag comes back.
 
Not looking good at this point.
 
EDIT: And Sonar is frequently hanging, white-screen of "almost death."
 
EDIT: It may be the VST3 version of Virus Control that is causing the issue.  The VST2 may be working OK.  Still evaluating.
 
Overall, if I get more problems, I will post in the proper section...

Maybe like this? If so might be worth piggy backing on thread...

http://forum.cakewalk.com...spx?m=3303465&fp=2

I notice they did a VST reset and rescan and it just froze there. You might want to see if you are having similar behaviour.

Anderton

BTW, you did the exact same thing in another thread where I mentioned how PreRoll Recording would be a very useful feature. The conversation took a bizarre twist when you tried to justify not having the feature by claiming that you needed to have coffee or eat a sandwich before recording (like any of that had anything to do with Pre-roll Recording).

 
I was going to let this drop, but that statement is so blatantly dishonest it demands a response. I said nothing of the sort, it was Irvin himself who added a comment (which I think many would consider, to use his words, “condescending” and “downright stupid”) about “eating a sandwich” in the thread he's referencing. The word “sandwich” appears only in his post and quotes of his post. “Coffee” does not appear in any of the thread’s posts.
 
(If anyone cares whether Irvin is telling the truth, please look over this thread. Then, judge for yourself who is being condescending while twisting the conversation in a bizarre direction with comments about eating sandwiches, and who is trying to provide a workaround that will accomplish almost everything Irvin wanted to accomplish.)
 
Given that kind of dishonesty, and the apparent inability to differentiate between a one-click operation and a click/drag/select operation (which had me trying to find out about something that doesn’t exist), there is no point in attempting a dialog nor is it worth taking the time to point out the multiple flaws in the rest of Irvin’s response.
 
As to anyone else reading this thread, please do not be misled by Irvin’s comments. I'm always looking for ways to improve SONAR. I will advocate for functions the community wants if I feel they would improve SONAR. I also make it clear when there’s something I don’t like (e.g., my complaints about the Start Screen and why I had disabled it, at least until the fixes in the latest update).
 

Craig, Irvin is saying you introduced a strawman into the previous conversation and he used "eating a sandwich" as a metaphor. You are getting crazy tangled up in your anger at him and going off the deep end. Calm down. Sometimes you do get condescending in your responses. And you seem to think that putting a smiley washes it away. You get boatloads of praise here. You are going to get a little criticism too. 

I like the latest update, good job bakers.
 
However my start screen is still blank when I am off-line so it is still useless here.
Note that this is not a big problem but I did like the old start screen better.

Although I have used Cakewalk since 1995 (v. 3 for windows) and am currently using Platinum, my use cases are not very involved with sophisticated routing. I put my tracks in, mix, master (rinse-wash-repeat), done.  Therefore, I am really, really not quite getting the usefulness of this feature, or when/if I would use it. As far as my initial cursory look at the documention goes, it appears this is most useful to create different mixes/submixes, etc., or a way to use different effects on a track, but just part of the track-- I get the feeling it is so much more. I don't know if this is something I need/want, but can someone give me any testimonials or explain this to me like I'm a 5 year old?  I mostly write jazz and pop, and most of the time I'm using virtual instruments almost exclusively, and I strive for realism over using lots of synths or innovative effects, etc. I like doing my mixing/mastering using various plug ins like Izotope's suite of stuff, and most of this has served me well to release several albums, as well as some post-production work on field recordings and other folks' demos, etc. 
I'd like to take advantage of this feature once I more fully understand it, but my patience with routing is rather thin, for some reason (old age?). 
Thanks for tolerating such an open-ended and admittedly ignorant question. 

The Start Screen... better, but it's not a useful tool IMHO yet. Three changes would make it a kick butt tool:
 
One, having simple screenshot thumbs on the right may help with a project I worked on yesterday, but its usefulness as a visual 'Q degrades rapidly after a few days. . If we could replace these default screenshots with our own graphic... then it could become a very useful tool for retrieval of songs because we could set the visuals that have meaning to the user.
 
Second, being able to show a  simple text list of recent projects (ala X3) in addition to the thumbnail view , is often all that is needed.  So allow the user to set the default "Recent List" style desired - as a simple or thumbnail versions. A last updated date would be a bonus, too.
 
Finally, having a simple text matching search for file names, ala google home page, would also be very handy.
 
I tried the start screen when it first came out a few weeks or so ago, then I shut it off until this update.  I found that while it was off I was happy just to use the most recent list in the program menu - and the bonus was startup was lightening fast. But with the addition of the  suggestions, I think the Start Screen could be a very useful tool.
 
Finally,

Oops. Nevermind. :)

Notecrusher

Anderton

BTW, you did the exact same thing in another thread where I mentioned how PreRoll Recording would be a very useful feature. The conversation took a bizarre twist when you tried to justify not having the feature by claiming that you needed to have coffee or eat a sandwich before recording (like any of that had anything to do with Pre-roll Recording).

 
I was going to let this drop, but that statement is so blatantly dishonest it demands a response. I said nothing of the sort, it was Irvin himself who added a comment (which I think many would consider, to use his words, “condescending” and “downright stupid”) about “eating a sandwich” in the thread he's referencing. The word “sandwich” appears only in his post and quotes of his post. “Coffee” does not appear in any of the thread’s posts.
 
(If anyone cares whether Irvin is telling the truth, please look over this thread. Then, judge for yourself who is being condescending while twisting the conversation in a bizarre direction with comments about eating sandwiches, and who is trying to provide a workaround that will accomplish almost everything Irvin wanted to accomplish.)
 
Given that kind of dishonesty, and the apparent inability to differentiate between a one-click operation and a click/drag/select operation (which had me trying to find out about something that doesn’t exist), there is no point in attempting a dialog nor is it worth taking the time to point out the multiple flaws in the rest of Irvin’s response.
 
As to anyone else reading this thread, please do not be misled by Irvin’s comments. I'm always looking for ways to improve SONAR. I will advocate for functions the community wants if I feel they would improve SONAR. I also make it clear when there’s something I don’t like (e.g., my complaints about the Start Screen and why I had disabled it, at least until the fixes in the latest update).
 

Craig, Irvin is saying you introduced a strawman into the previous conversation and he used "eating a sandwich" as a metaphor. You are getting crazy tangled up in your anger at him and going off the deep end. Calm down. Sometimes you do get condescending in your responses. And you seem to think that putting a smiley washes it away. You get boatloads of praise here. You are going to get a little criticism too. 

I think Irvin lost the supposed "straw man" argument when he used words like "exact same thing" and then chose to quote his own post and attribute it to Craig. Craig's input has been great and vital to these forums and to the evolution of Sonar and I hope he won't consider self-editing his input to suit thinner skins- (in my opinion) Irvin chose to poke that particular bear. I understand how some may see Craig's replies as exuberant fan-boy-ism but he always has the mindset to present ways to accomplish what the user is trying to do within the context of sonar as it currently exists - sometimes people wrongly assume this means he is against their idea's implementation.
"Going off the deep end"? C'mon!