Can someone clarify CRAIG's comment that patch points don't currently gat saved within a template?

I obviously want to take advantage of this wonderful routing to update my template but would obviously need the patch points to be saved

Does CRAIG mean "track templates" - ie the ones you insert when a project is open?

Surely a project template would save the patch point routing?

I can't get to my music DAW for a little while so would appreciate confirmation as I am looking forward to upgrading my standard "project template" to use the routing - saving "track template" patch points would be nice but I can wait and I am encouraged by the "yet" in CRAIG's post above (as well as the bit where he said a free sandwich comes with the next SONAR update ;-) too soon?)

Aux Tracks cannot be bounced as 'tracks' with the "Bounce-to-tracks" menu.
Aux Tracks can only be bounced through a BUS.
 
Is this correct?
 

If you think of Aux Tracks as a pseudo buses, instead of bouncing, record their input like a regular audio track.   Their input just happens to be the output of other audio tracks or buses vs. hardware.
 

But recording the AuxTrack would not make use of 'plugin upsampling at render'
 
 

miracledee
But recording the AuxTrack would not make use of 'plugin upsampling at render'

 

But the JP update also introduced real time upsampling on playback.

This is a great update!
 
The only thing I do not understand is that the builders do not implement VCA masters.
 As a working bassplayer, I began working with sequencers 16 years ago on PC with Sonar.
12 years ago I switched to Mac for reasons of on location recording (MBpro seemed the most stable solution at that time). So I learned to work with PT, Logic etc... All that time I kept missing Sonar.
So finally I installed windows 8 in bootcamp and I am happily using Sonar Plat again.
 
The only thing I keep missing from PT (Logic, Studio1, Cubase) in Sonar, is VCA masters.
Even in samplitude they are implemented.
Why is Sonar staying behind the times in this respect? I don't understand.

coolbass
The only thing I keep missing from PT (Logic, Studio1, Cubase) in Sonar, is VCA masters.
Even in samplitude they are implemented.
Why is Sonar staying behind the times in this respect? I don't understand.

Would be a nice enhancement, go to the features and ideas forum I suggest. In the meantime you can obtain third party plugins to do this.

Boydie
Can someone clarify CRAIG's comment that patch points don't currently gat saved within a template?

I obviously want to take advantage of this wonderful routing to update my template but would obviously need the patch points to be saved

Does CRAIG mean "track templates" - ie the ones you insert when a project is open?

Surely a project template would save the patch point routing?

I can't get to my music DAW for a little while so would appreciate confirmation as I am looking forward to upgrading my standard "project template" to use the routing - saving "track template" patch points would be nice but I can wait and I am encouraged by the "yet" in CRAIG's post above (as well as the bit where he said a free sandwich comes with the next SONAR update ;-) too soon?)

 
Correct patchpoints should work fine in project templates. They are not supported yet in track templates. We plan to implement support for importing patch points from track templates soon.

miracledee
Aux Tracks cannot be bounced as 'tracks' with the "Bounce-to-tracks" menu.
Aux Tracks can only be bounced through a BUS.
 
Is this correct?

 
Well not exactly. You can bounce an aux track if source category is tracks. However what that does is bounce that track in exclusion so it will only render any track contents (clips). i.e. any input coming from other tracks or buses will not be considered. If you do want other tracks in the mix then source category tracks is not appropriate.
 
That said we could try and make that bounce function smarter in the future to auto include all input components.
Feel free to submit that as a feature request.

For me, the part that this update fills that could not be achieved internally before is "loopback" functionality. For things like tweaking parameters on synth UIs (e.g., while doing real-time screen captures) or for synths that have unsynchronized oscillators this is a BIG deal. VSTs for loopback and physical loopback cabling is now a thing of the past.
 
For folks like me who work primarily audio and do not like to fuss with MIDI to great depths, this also speeds up the time to get the audio "in hand," as it were (I tend not to have the patience to tweak CC data ad infinitum).