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  • Is Quad Curve an ultimate EQ ?
2015/10/03 10:08:43
Afrodrum
I have recently killed the temptation to buy Voxengo GlissEQ which is great plugin used by many I respect and first choice for some most experienced "Recording Review" forum members. Earlier I refrained from byuing PSP eqs while on sale and those of you who are familiar with PSP plugins perhaps know that these Polish gyus are true geniuses. The battle of GAS and reason inside me resulted with question: Is there really anything other EQ plugins can do that our Quad Curve can't ?

QC's 4 bands, Q range + HPass & LPass, beatiful GUI, seems perfectly enough for any task. Are you aware of any EQ plugin which job could not be done with QC ( or QC/Sonitus/team). I guess EQ is only supposed to cut or boost, if its coloring the sound then that's filtering or distortion, not eq'ing.

So what would make you to look into other eq ? Wider Q range ? More bands ? Precision of freq knobs? GUI ?
2015/10/03 10:18:30
scook
Here are a few ideas: Mid/Side processing, separate Left and Right processing, pre and post curve analysis
But the biggest in the case of QuadCurve EQ is when I need more than one EQ on the track
2015/10/03 10:33:00
Afrodrum
Mid/Side is a good point. Very interesting when would you need to one eq followed by the another (same) eq, and can you achieve the results you want with Sonitus following QC eq or vice versa ?
2015/10/03 10:40:11
Anderton
Disclaimer: I'm not into a wine-tasting mentality with compressors, EQs, etc. I don't need an emulation of the legendary EQ from a legendary mixer that was used in some legendary studio to record a legendary piece of music; what I need is something that will cut and boost at frequencies of my choice in different ways 
 
That said, you might find this article interesting, as it describes how to use noise to evaluate the QuadCurve EQ (as well as other EQs). One of the QC's limitations is that it's not phase-linear, but SONAR has a phase-linear EQ so you're covered. For an interesting test, set up the Sonitus and LP-64 EQs to the same high-frequency boost settings, then switch between them on something like ride cymbals...you'll hear a difference.
 
For me, the main limitation of the QC is the number of bands. Four bands isn't really enough for mastering, although it's a toss-up whether you want to use the QC or the LP-64 for mastering anyway. I do like the Hybrid mode when there's program material with resonances that need to be but also needs gentle boosts; the "Pultec-like" Pure mode is great for general tone-shaping. So when I do use the QC for mastering, I usually feed into a bus so I can get two QCs in series and end up with 8 stages.
 
The other limitation is the spectrum analyzer. It's a welcome addition, but doesn't allow for averaging, hold, etc. 
 
But as a general-purpose, highly versatile EQ, the QC is tough to beat. I think some people who have a strong preference for a particular EQ might not be aware of the effect of the different QC curves, so they choose an EQ that defaults to a curve they like. Its's really important to become intimately familiar with how the QC curves affect sound so you can use the right curve for the right job.
2015/10/03 10:46:32
scook
Afrodrum
Very interesting when would you need to one eq followed by the another (same) eq, and can you achieve the results you want with Sonitus following QC eq or vice versa ?

Yes, there are quite a few EQs bundled wit SONAR and any of them could work when more than one EQ is needed. However, the QuadCurve is the only PC EQ bundled with SONAR. A typical application would be before and after compression.
2015/10/03 11:10:00
Afrodrum
Craig thanks, I read the week 59 article before. I understand that your answer is that eq curves is the principal reason why you would look into other eqs. I suppose the eq curve shapes is separate field of science available to most experienced ears only :-)
2015/10/03 11:15:33
Afrodrum
scook
A typical application would be before and after compression.


Of course, thanks, I was aware of this technique bur never used eqs that way myself.
2015/10/03 11:48:30
jackson white
+1 for more bands. 8 total might be good enough, but not discounting the impact it might have on the UI controls. 
 
+1 for >1 instance in PC. Would be more than OK with just 2.
 
Might be useful to save "EQ only presets" instead of full PC presets. This could apply to other CW PC modules.
2015/10/03 12:25:11
jackson white
A persistent view that tracks active track/bus selection.
 
I would find this to be a productivity improvement when starting surgery on a complex mix. I'd be OK with a Multidock only implementation. 
 
2015/10/03 12:35:00
Vilovilo
Hi,
A little bit off topic,but LP64 would be a great tool if it had a spectrum visualizer .
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