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Can the new Jamaica Plain aux track work as a guide track? So no need to bounce...

You still need audio in the track, so you'd have to record-enable the Aux Track and record the audio into the track, which is a real-time operation. Probably faster just to use Fast Bounce.

I did not do the bounce, I figured- the audio is in track, even in more than one take line- it is in track. So it was.
 
From what I can hear with my ears after about 8 hours of on and off work with audio is that bouncing each backing track to main vocal track worked better. I cant hear details- need to let my ears rest. But it *feels* as it addressed phasing some what and feels like the backing tracks got glued to the main vocal (as they expected), which made them some what lighter.
 
I will listen it in a couple of hours. The backing tracks I synced to each other I used full blown 100% processing. When synced to main vocal track- used default 25%... It looked horrible. I could not believe I sang that far from the main track. But I think it makes it some what better. Will update. Thanks.

vladasyn
I did not do the bounce, I figured- the audio is in track, even in more than one take line- it is in track. 

When you said it was in 5 different tracks, I didn't realize you were talking about take lanes. When you referred to take lines, I thought you meant vocal lines. Yes, you can just fold up the take lanes and see them represented as a track. When you choose a track as the vocalsync guide track, the audio in that track - which includes the audio in the track's lanes - provides the guide.

I was referring to both. There are 5 vocal tracks for different parts with multiple take lines in each track.

vladasyn
The backing tracks I synced to each other I used full blown 100% processing. When synced to main vocal track- used default 25%... It looked horrible. I could not believe I sang that far from the main track. But I think it makes it some what better. Will update. Thanks.

The percentage does not necessarily correlate to amount of "correction." The "sweet spot" can be anywhere along that continuum. For example in one case, 35% might give the best results, or it might be 67%, or 100%, or whatever. You have to look at the graphic and listen, bearing in mind that you will not hear full fidelity until rendering (the beauty of undo in case it doesn't work right).
 
As to five tracks of five take lanes, you can choose whichever track has the audio to which you want to sync to at the time as the guide track, but you can designate only one guide track at a time.

Thank you for your reply. I find it that tweaking percentage serves little purpose because it is nearly impossible to tell what it doing. It stretching in one place, constricting in another. I can see the wav pics go left and right but never align with the reference track. The reason I used 100% was because I heard it aligned one ending of the phrase- it said "T" together. But it also made other parts not together, also I don't know if they were together matching... It is nice tool idea but it is far from being perfect. I guess it helps some.  

If you have an earlier version of sonar installed you can use V-Vocal for nudging the timing of vocal phrases around.
 
This is still my weapon of choice when aligning backing/harmony vocals to a lead vocal.

vladasyn
Thank you for your reply. I find it that tweaking percentage serves little purpose because it is nearly impossible to tell what it doing. It stretching in one place, constricting in another. I can see the wav pics go left and right but never align with the reference track. The reason I used 100% was because I heard it aligned one ending of the phrase- it said "T" together. But it also made other parts not together, also I don't know if they were together matching... It is nice tool idea but it is far from being perfect. I guess it helps some.  

That says to me you are working on vocal clips that are too long - Vocal Sync definitely works better on shorter clips, or as a minimum, those clips which are not drifting further apart with time. (Sometimes you just have to do another take and try to get it right). The percentage number to me is irrelevant, but they had to put something there to give a context or reference - to help the user to find the "sweet spot".

Right, you will have better results working on smaller clips. Try chopping up your take into clips where you have timing problems and then apply vocalsync to those clips.

Don't forget Melodyne Essential lets you split notes, and adjust timings of "blob" starts/ends.