On the subject of USB storage once connected but not at the moment, Windows often keeps a kimd of ghost version of them hanging around. Also does the same thing with MIDI devices.

Windows often can't seem to tell if the device attached to USB port 1 is the same device that was attached to USB port 2 last week. So it launches a fresh initiation of the relevant driver twice (or more). If you go into Windows control panel/device manager as administrator and on the view menu pick "show hidden devices" the ghosts will be displayed. Deleting any to do with MIDI devices or storage might be a good idea, especially the MIDI ones as they count towards the maximum number of MIDI ports Windows can handle.

Flash drives are highly unlikely, but the camera you used for videos may be worth looking into. Does that camera have a software package or driver set loaded onto your machine? If so, you may want to try uninstalling software/drivers for that camera to check, but see below first.

Another thing that came to mind for that would be to check Windows "Sound Card Properties" and see what devices are listed. Does that camera show up as an input on the record tab? If so, it would be simplest to disable it temporarily there.

Thanks once again,
tlw, I looked under 'show hidden' in the device manager and a host of items populated, am I safe to delete all the storage volumes and/or all the storage volume shadow copies (there are many many shadow copies)? I don't see anything MIDI related, maybe that's under a different terminology?
Mettelus, I don't find anything related to the camera, the only options in the windows sound is the OctaCapture's various outputs.
Now I haven't changed anything since I did yet another reinstall, I have been able to record analog piano, vocal, and I did a bass  line recording my jazz and Raptures round wound simultaneously, with out a crash so far. All my fingers and toes are crossed. Not sure what happened, which is really frustrating as I don't know the fix for next time or for someone else.
I will press forward, I am eternally grateful to all!!

RDID1110 is Octacapture.
Do you have USB storage as well? What is it?
 
Suggested steps.
 
Remove Octacapture drivers, reboot and install install the latest (whether you are on latest or not). Are you definitely on the latest system program?
 
Go to intel driver update site.
 
Try different USB sockets.
 
Try running Sonar as Admin (or not running Sonar as admin).
 
Ta.
 
 

Oh assuming the issue comes back... sorry.

Howdy-  I used to be pretty good at using even logs, but in my years of dealing with this stuff, it's usually more than one problem.  Having said that, I have a 64 bit Win 6 x64 system that seems to run fine, but I'm out of practice, yet may have a few tips.  If someone else has already suggested these, "never mind."
 
Your event log shows multiple instances of registry keys not getting written due to no access (regsetvalue with a cause of access denied) so the questions as to whether the programs were installed as administrator were relevant.  It also refers to missing updates, and realtime protection from Windows Security Essentials ?    When do programs crash ?  Usually when the don't see something they expect, or they see something they don't expect.    
 
I would turn off security essentials realtime protection when system testing.  It's mentioned in the event log.
 
As far as ghost USB stuff,  you may not actually be seeing all the drivers installed in the USB section:  Take the following and stick it in a batch file, then turn on show hidden devices:
 
@echo on
SET DEVMGR_SHOW_NONPRESENT_DEVICES=1
devmgmt.msc
 
This should show you non connected devices, and I generally delete most of that stuff from device manager (except controllers and root hubs).  The drivers usually re-install if you need them, but sometimes, the reinstall in itself can be a problem if the driver isn't ready for prime time.
 
If the no access is due to a device that isn't there, the last device manager trick may help.  It sounds like you have one or two flash drives plugged in, one for emergency Linux boot ?  Are they still plugged in ?  I have several ASUS MBs and I've seen them get confused when other boot devices are present, however......  it's usually a boot issue, but sometimes it's just a bluescreen.
 
TLW referred to windows identifying (or not) duplicate USB devices.  Windows "enumerates" or creates a separate ID for each USB device, so you could plug in two identical MS Mice, and it would know which is which.  TLW is right, that after they are unplugged, it doesn't remember which is which, and often, if not always installs a new driver. Another reason to use the technique above.  You can always skip the batch file, and type SET DEVMGR_SHOW_NONPRESENT_DEVICES=1 into the command line.   
 
Hope that helps.  My system should be in my sig, unless I broke that too
 
 
 

joyof60
Log Very open to suggestions on how to present event viewer logs, and which ones would be beneficial.
 
Name:      System Source:        RDID1110 Date:          9/1/2015 6:53:34 PM Event ID:      54 Task Category: None Level:         Warning Keywords:      Classic User:          N/A Computer:      Jams-PC Description: The description for Event ID 54 from source RDID1110 cannot be found. Either the component that raises this event is not installed on your local computer or the installation is corrupted. You can install or repair the component on the local computer.
If the event originated on another computer, the display information had to be saved with the event.
The following information was included with the event:
\Device\Rdwm1110001
Event Xml: <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">   <System>     <Provider Name="RDID1110" />     <EventID Qualifiers="32772">54</EventID>     <Level>3</Level>     <Task>0</Task>     <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>     <TimeCreated SystemTime="2015-09-01T23:53:34.632421800Z" />     <EventRecordID>25975</EventRecordID>     <Channel>System</Channel>     <Computer>Jams-PC</Computer>     <Security />   </System>   <EventData>     <Data>\Device\Rdwm1110001</Data>     <Binary>00000000010000000000000036000480000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000</Binary>   </EventData> </Event> Log Name:      System Source:        Service Control Manager Date:          9/1/2015 5:47:17 PM Event ID:      7006 Task Category: None Level:         Error Keywords:      Classic User:          N/A Computer:      Jams-PC Description: The ScRegSetValueExW call failed for FailureCommand with the following error: Access is denied. Event Xml: <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">   <System>     <Provider Name="Service Control Manager" Guid="{555908d1-a6d7-4695-8e1e-26931d2012f4}" EventSourceName="Service Control Manager" />     <EventID Qualifiers="49152">7006</EventID>     <Version>0</Version>     <Level>2</Level>     <Task>0</Task>     <Opcode>0</Opcode>     <Keywords>0x8080000000000000</Keywords>     <TimeCreated SystemTime="2015-09-01T22:47:17.949968600Z" />     <EventRecordID>25954</EventRecordID>     <Correlation />     <Execution ProcessID="700" ThreadID="5004" />     <Channel>System</Channel>     <Computer>Jams-PC</Computer>     <Security />   </System>   <EventData>     <Data Name="param1">ScRegSetValueExW</Data>     <Data Name="param2">FailureCommand</Data>     <Data Name="param3">%%5</Data>   </EventData> </Event> Log Name:      System Source:        Service Control Manager Date:          9/1/2015 5:47:16 PM Event ID:      7006 Task Category: None Level:         Error Keywords:      Classic User:          N/A Computer:      Jams-PC Description: The ScRegSetValueExW call failed for Start with the following error: Access is denied. Event Xml: <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">   <System>     <Provider Name="Service Control Manager" Guid="{555908d1-a6d7-4695-8e1e-26931d2012f4}" EventSourceName="Service Control Manager" />     <EventID Qualifiers="49152">7006</EventID>     <Version>0</Version>     <Level>2</Level>     <Task>0</Task>     <Opcode>0</Opcode>     <Keywords>0x8080000000000000</Keywords>     <TimeCreated SystemTime="2015-09-01T22:47:16.639893700Z" />     <EventRecordID>25953</EventRecordID>     <Correlation />     <Execution ProcessID="700" ThreadID="5004" />     <Channel>System</Channel>     <Computer>Jams-PC</Computer>     <Security />   </System>   <EventData>     <Data Name="param1">ScRegSetValueExW</Data>     <Data Name="param2">Start</Data>     <Data Name="param3">%%5</Data>   </EventData> </Event> Log Name:      System Source:        Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-PnP Date:          9/1/2015 5:38:44 PM Event ID:      219 Task Category: (212) Level:         Warning Keywords:      User:          SYSTEM Computer:      Jams-PC Description: The driver \Driver\WUDFRd failed to load for the device WpdBusEnumRoot\UMB\2&37c186b&0&STORAGE#VOLUME#_??_USBSTOR#DISK&VEN_GENERIC&PROD_STORAGE_DEVICE&REV_0.00#00000000000006&0#. Event Xml: <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">   <System>     <Provider Name="Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-PnP" Guid="{9C205A39-1250-487D-ABD7-E831C6290539}" />     <EventID>219</EventID>     <Version>0</Version>     <Level>3</Level>     <Task>212</Task>     <Opcode>0</Opcode>     <Keywords>0x8000000000000000</Keywords>     <TimeCreated SystemTime="2015-09-01T22:38:44.467599100Z" />     <EventRecordID>25914</EventRecordID>     <Correlation />     <Execution ProcessID="4" ThreadID="56" />     <Channel>System</Channel>     <Computer>Jams-PC</Computer>     <Security UserID="S-1-5-18" />   </System>   <EventData>     <Data Name="DriverNameLength">121</Data>     <Data Name="DriverName">WpdBusEnumRoot\UMB\2&amp;37c186b&amp;0&amp;STORAGE#VOLUME#_??_USBSTOR#DISK&amp;VEN_GENERIC&amp;PROD_STORAGE_DEVICE&amp;REV_0.00#00000000000006&amp;0#</Data>     <Data Name="Status">3221226341</Data>     <Data Name="FailureNameLength">14</Data>     <Data Name="FailureName">\Driver\WUDFRd</Data>     <Data Name="Version">0</Data>   </EventData> </Event> Log Name:      System Source:        Service Control Manager Date:          9/1/2015 5:38:44 PM Event ID:      7006 Task Category: None Level:         Error Keywords:      Classic User:          N/A Computer:      Jams-PC Description: The ScRegSetValueExW call failed for Start with the following error: Access is denied. Event Xml: <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">   <System>     <Provider Name="Service Control Manager" Guid="{555908d1-a6d7-4695-8e1e-26931d2012f4}" EventSourceName="Service Control Manager" />     <EventID Qualifiers="49152">7006</EventID>     <Version>0</Version>     <Level>2</Level>     <Task>0</Task>     <Opcode>0</Opcode>     <Keywords>0x8080000000000000</Keywords>     <TimeCreated SystemTime="2015-09-01T22:38:44.209584300Z" />     <EventRecordID>25911</EventRecordID>     <Correlation />     <Execution ProcessID="700" ThreadID="800" />     <Channel>System</Channel>     <Computer>Jams-PC</Computer>     <Security />   </System>   <EventData>     <Data Name="param1">ScRegSetValueExW</Data>     <Data Name="param2">Start</Data>     <Data Name="param3">%%5</Data>   </EventData> </Event> Log Name:      System Source:        Microsoft Antimalware Date:          9/1/2015 5:38:44 PM Event ID:      3002 Task Category: None Level:         Error Keywords:      Classic User:          N/A Computer:      Jams-PC Description: Microsoft Antimalware Real-Time Protection feature has encountered an error and failed.   Feature: Network Inspection System   Error Code: 0x80070005   Error description: Access is denied.   Reason: The system is missing updates that are required for running Network Inspection System.  Install the required updates and restart the computer. Event Xml: <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">   <System>     <Provider Name="Microsoft Antimalware" />     <EventID Qualifiers="0">3002</EventID>     <Level>2</Level>     <Task>0</Task>     <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>     <TimeCreated SystemTime="2015-09-01T22:38:44.000000000Z" />     <EventRecordID>25905</EventRecordID>     <Channel>System</Channel>     <Computer>Jams-PC</Computer>     <Security />   </System>   <EventData>     <Data>%%860</Data>     <Data>4.8.0204.0</Data>     <Data>%%886</Data>     <Data>%%892</Data>     <Data>0x80070005</Data>     <Data>Access is denied. </Data>     <Data>9</Data>   </EventData> </Event> Log Name:      System Source:        Service Control Manager Date:          9/1/2015 5:38:43 PM Event ID:      7022 Task Category: None Level:         Error Keywords:      Classic User:          N/A Computer:      Jams-PC Description: The AsusFanControlService service hung on starting. Event Xml: <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">   <System>     <Provider Name="Service Control Manager" Guid="{555908d1-a6d7-4695-8e1e-26931d2012f4}" EventSourceName="Service Control Manager" />     <EventID Qualifiers="49152">7022</EventID>     <Version>0</Version>     <Level>2</Level>     <Task>0</Task>     <Opcode>0</Opcode>     <Keywords>0x8080000000000000</Keywords>     <TimeCreated SystemTime="2015-09-01T22:38:43.732557000Z" />     <EventRecordID>25901</EventRecordID>     <Correlation />     <Execution ProcessID="700" ThreadID="704" />     <Channel>System</Channel>     <Computer>Jams-PC</Computer>     <Security />   </System>   <EventData>     <Data Name="param1">AsusFanControlService</Data>   </EventData> </Event> Log Name:      System Source:        Service Control Manager Date:          9/1/2015 5:13:20 PM Event ID:      7006 Task Category: None Level:         Error Keywords:      Classic User:          N/A Computer:      Jams-PC Description: The ScRegSetValueExW call failed for FailureCommand with the following error: Access is denied. Event Xml: <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">   <System>     <Provider Name="Service Control Manager" Guid="{555908d1-a6d7-4695-8e1e-26931d2012f4}" EventSourceName="Service Control Manager" />     <EventID Qualifiers="49152">7006</EventID>     <Version>0</Version>     <Level>2</Level>     <Task>0</Task>     <Opcode>0</Opcode>     <Keywords>0x8080000000000000</Keywords>     <TimeCreated SystemTime="2015-09-01T22:13:20.311410500Z" />     <EventRecordID>25761</EventRecordID>     <Correlation />     <Execution ProcessID="716" ThreadID="4600" />     <Channel>System</Channel>     <Computer>Jams-PC</Computer>     <Security />   </System>   <EventData>     <Data Name="param1">ScRegSetValueExW</Data>     <Data Name="param2">FailureCommand</Data>     <Data Name="param3">%%5</Data>   </EventData> </Event> Log Name:      System Source:        Service Control Manager Date:          9/1/2015 5:12:31 PM Event ID:      7006 Task Category: None Level:         Error Keywords:      Classic User:          N/A Computer:      Jams-PC Description: The ScRegSetValueExW call failed for Start with the following error: Access is denied. Event Xml: <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">   <System>     <Provider Name="Service Control Manager" Guid="{555908d1-a6d7-4695-8e1e-26931d2012f4}" EventSourceName="Service Control Manager" />     <EventID Qualifiers="49152">7006</EventID>     <Version>0</Version>     <Level>2</Level>     <Task>0</Task>     <Opcode>0</Opcode>     <Keywords>0x8080000000000000</Keywords>     <TimeCreated SystemTime="2015-09-01T22:12:31.583623400Z" />     <EventRecordID>25756</EventRecordID>     <Correlation />     <Execution ProcessID="716" ThreadID="2580" />     <Channel>System</Channel>     <Computer>Jams-PC</Computer>     <Security />   </System>   <EventData>     <Data Name="param1">ScRegSetValueExW</Data>     <Data Name="param2">Start</Data>     <Data Name="param3">%%5</Data>   </EventData> </Event> Log Name:      System Source:        Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-PnP Date:          9/1/2015 5:03:54 PM Event ID:      219 Task Category: (212) Level:         Warning Keywords:      User:          SYSTEM Computer:      Jams-PC Description: The driver \Driver\WUDFRd failed to load for the device WpdBusEnumRoot\UMB\2&37c186b&0&STORAGE#VOLUME#_??_USBSTOR#DISK&VEN_GENERIC&PROD_STORAGE_DEVICE&REV_0.00#00000000000006&0#. Event Xml: <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">   <System>     <Provider Name="Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-PnP" Guid="{9C205A39-1250-487D-ABD7-E831C6290539}" />     <EventID>219</EventID>     <Version>0</Version>     <Level>3</Level>     <Task>212</Task>     <Opcode>0</Opcode>     <Keywords>0x8000000000000000</Keywords>     <TimeCreated SystemTime="2015-09-01T22:03:54.764063100Z" />     <EventRecordID>25717</EventRecordID>     <Correlation />     <Execution ProcessID="4" ThreadID="48" />     <Channel>System</Channel>     <Computer>Jams-PC</Computer>     <Security UserID="S-1-5-18" />   </System>   <EventData>     <Data Name="DriverNameLength">121</Data>     <Data Name="DriverName">WpdBusEnumRoot\UMB\2&amp;37c186b&amp;0&amp;STORAGE#VOLUME#_??_USBSTOR#DISK&amp;VEN_GENERIC&amp;PROD_STORAGE_DEVICE&amp;REV_0.00#00000000000006&amp;0#</Data>     <Data Name="Status">3221226341</Data>     <Data Name="FailureNameLength">14</Data>     <Data Name="FailureName">\Driver\WUDFRd</Data>     <Data Name="Version">0</Data>   </EventData> </Event>

Thanks again Doc, No USB storage on the OctaCapture, it is connected via USB though.
I will try a reinstall of both the OC's system and device drivers. I wonder if it would behoove me to install the win 10 driver as its the only update Roland has done, it carries the same version number as the last one.
David, thanks a bunch, I'll give that a try as well. whether or not I'm having crashes at the moment it does appear that some house cleaning may prevent future problems, if I'm understanding correctly. I'll try it and see. Thanks again for all your time and effort!

joyof60
Thanks again Doc, No USB storage on the OctaCapture, it is connected via USB though.
I will try a reinstall of both the OC's system and device drivers.

 
I mean USB storage like usb external hard drives, your sound interface does not have a storage facility.
Not just reinstall. Removal and reinstall of the device drivers.
 
Def try different USB sockets (USB 2),  intel driver update and running Sonar as Admin (or vice versa) as well.
Ta.

[image]C:\Users\Jams\Desktop\Snippetts\Crash 9415 1758.JPG[/image]
Thanks so much Doc, trying to follow instructions, I did a complete removal and uninstall of the OC's drivers, and did a download and reinstall of both that are required. Went a whole day without a crash then here again. Trying to enclose a snippet of the details, not sure if I know how but am trying.

Unfortunately I'm unable to access your local hard drive to view the image  :)