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  • RE: Sonar- update ( disregard this post if looking 4 info) (p.2)
2015/10/18 12:09:49
Beepster
brundlefly
I think he's talking about auto-merging sound on sound MIDI takes to a single clip.




If that's what this is about it doesn't even matter anyway. Using Sound On Sound recording does the same thing and the only way you'd know it was recorded into separate clips is if you broke open the Take Lanes on the MIDI track.
 
However it really does take literally a second to bounce such recordings into one clip.
 
Probably a better workflow anyway so you can do a bunch of passes (with mute previous takes on) then only bounce the good stuff.
 
At least I think that's how that all works. I haven't done it since I was using X1.
2015/10/18 12:39:06
brundlefly
OP is just hoping the re-raising a stink will help get the the Bakers to move on the feature request. This strategy has occasionally proven effective in the past.
 
Previous thread:
http://forum.cakewalk.com/Why-does-Cakewalk-refuse-to-update-highly-outdated-midi-record-feature-m3266982.aspx
 
Feature request:
http://forum.cakewalk.com/Auto-merge-of-Midi-when-loop-recording-m3147500.aspx
 
2015/10/18 12:41:36
Doktor Avalanche
brundlefly
This strategy has occasionally proven effective in the past.



LOL. In which case where's the new drum maps UI? :)
2015/10/18 13:27:36
noynekker
Anderton
brundlefly
I think he's talking about auto-merging sound on sound MIDI takes to a single clip.

 
I wonder why would that be important compared to just bouncing after you're finished recording?


So . . . every time you overdub onto a midi clip you have to do a "bounce to clips" to organize it, then you also have to rename the midi clip because bouncing to clips loses the clip naming. It's 2 extra steps.
2015/10/18 14:27:22
Anderton
Doktor Avalanche
brundlefly
This strategy has occasionally proven effective in the past.



LOL. In which case where's the new drum maps UI? :)



I have it from a reliable source that the "feature request mention tracker" works only to four significant digits of mentions. Once the number of mentions exceeds 9,999, it resets back to 0 
2015/10/18 14:34:27
Anderton
FWIW I too have requested a "drum machine mode" for MIDI loop recording. I would want it to work like Sound on Sound works now, except that the notes from previous passes would be visible and available for editing. That to me is far more important than automatic MIDI merging, which if it existed, I would likely disable.
 
I've also asked for real-time entry into the Step Sequencer. Of course you can do this from a keyboard in step time, but not in real time.
 
 
 
2015/10/18 15:22:15
mgh
Anderton
 
I've also asked for real-time entry into the Step Sequencer. Of course you can do this from a keyboard in step time, but not in real time.
 
 
 




how would that be different to real-time recording to MIDI and converting to a SS track? (i'm sure there is or you wouldn't be requesting it!)
2015/10/18 16:08:20
arlen2133
I would like to "see" the notes when loop recording.  It would speed up the editing for me.
 
Also, Noynekker is right.  Once you bounce, you have to rename the clip.  Not sure how to get around that, but now you're left with a blank clip. 
2015/10/18 16:30:40
Anderton
mgh
Anderton 
I've also asked for real-time entry into the Step Sequencer. Of course you can do this from a keyboard in step time, but not in real time.



how would that be different to real-time recording to MIDI and converting to a SS track? (i'm sure there is or you wouldn't be requesting it!)



It's not different if you record in one pass, but if you do multiple passes, in the SS you can edit notes you entered on previous passes without having to stop the transport.
2015/10/18 18:19:30
kine321
Anderton
FWIW I too have requested a "drum machine mode" for MIDI loop recording. I would want it to work like Sound on Sound works now, except that the notes from previous passes would be visible and available for editing. That to me is far more important than automatic MIDI merging, which if it existed, I would likely disable.
 
I've also asked for real-time entry into the Step Sequencer. Of course you can do this from a keyboard in step time, but not in real time.



This is the most basic of functions that every hardware drum machine or sequencer has always done. I think most of us a certain age started on hardware, well before computers became the new standard. Lets change the mindset for a moment. When you record a pattern in a HW drum machine, which is obviously loop recording... each note is added into the same pattern, whereas- you're overdubbing into the same performance. You'll be hard pressed to find a current major DAW or even smaller scale DAW's, that doesn't have this capability. Many offer options for both, clip takes and midi-overdubbing!
 
The key word here is: Option! No one is speaking of getting rid of anyone's beloved clip stacking. The main purpose for this feature is drum programming. If I record 10 different elements, I don't won't 10 separate parts stacked on one another when some parts are merely added notes to the same part, where I thought of something to add- that didn't come to mind at first. If you're doing EDM or other styles where drum parts can be repetitious, you must bounce to clips if you want your midi clip to be a groove clip! Also, stacked clips can easily be moved out of place if not careful. It's just a cumbersome way to work when it doesn't have to be that way!    
 
 
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