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2015/09/30 13:06:05
charlyg
There is no way to record live drums in my home studio without some expense. I'm new at this so, is this what I do?
 
Find a drummer, rent a studio for an hour as he plays along to headphones,  capture his performance to a wav, to bring into Sonar?
 
I'm clueless so I'll be quiet and listen for a bit.
2015/09/30 13:41:38
rcklln
I would recommend searching for and checking out some online drummers. If you can find someone with agreeable terms it might be the best bang for the buck.
2015/09/30 13:46:02
Sylvan
I sent you a private message. I am down the road a bit from you in San Diego. I have session drummers (real live drummers) that I work with and I have full live acoustic drum recording capabilities all with using SONAR Platinum.
2015/09/30 14:04:34
charlyg
I was thinking of e-drums but that limits who would be willing to play them.......
2015/10/01 19:26:08
bluzdog
There is always Addictive Drums and Session Drummer. They are both included with Sonar.
 
Rocky
2015/10/01 19:35:18
charlyg
I'm using EZ Drummer now, and I just got a drum map for AD2.
2015/10/01 23:58:39
Cactus Music
Either learn to program drum parts ( best idea)  or buy a basic digital kit and make friends with drummers. One hour in a studio would get you nowhere. 
 
On line collaboration is huge now. 
2015/10/02 00:42:04
AT
if you have a nice-sounding or even not bad room (a big if)  you can record real drums.  You don't need 642 mics.  A simple stereo channel will work, or one, or three.  Here at home I'll throw up 2 small diameter condensors as overheads and use either a pzm on the wood floor up close to the kick or a ribbon backed off proportionally like the OHs.  A sub-$100 ribbon overhead can work, too, esp. for some of that old-timey vibe.
 
Think of it as a chance to work on your recording chops - do some test recordings and figure out where in your room sounds best to put the drums and the mics.  If nothing else, you'll learn a heck of a lot.  In the Glyn Johns (who has a 3-mic technique named after him) interview I posted last week he used minimum mics but was very good at visualizing the cone of sound (not silence, Maxwell Smart) his mics heard, and worked them accordingly.
 
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2015/10/02 01:40:16
Rob[at]Sound-Rehab
Sylvan
I sent you a private message. I am down the road a bit from you in San Diego. I have session drummers (real live drummers) that I work with and I have full live acoustic drum recording capabilities all with using SONAR Platinum.




I suggest considering this offer ... you'll learn soooooo much from looking over someone's shoulder when micing drums and twisting the right knobs to make it sound good ... plus NOTHING beats a real live drummer ...
2015/10/02 02:12:35
Sylvan
Thank you FreeFlyBertl. I truly believe in real live drums. I use Addictive Drums to write parts and develop songs, but the final tracks are performed by a real human on an acoustic kit (most of the time, depending on the client).
 
I get a lot of pleasure from recording real drums and have come to see it as kind of a badge of honor in a way. I understand that not every can do that in every situation, but man, when you can do it, and get it right, there is indeed a little magic that is hard to describe, something that just feels right.
 
I currently have 22 available mic inputs with enough mics, cables, and stands to use them all. I am using an RME FireFace UFX as my main interface with various other preamps, all running into SONAR Platinum. For the moment I am tracking live drums in a performance theatre, all wood floors, over 14' ceiling, huge open space. This gives my the opportunity to get some legit use of stereo room mics and I love it.
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