quoricsant


hello all
Anyone knows the best (easiest) way to convert my many existing Sonar projects from 44.1k/16bit to 48k/24bit?

much obliged

As I understand it. If you don't record the material in 48/24 and capture what might have been "missed?" in 44.1/16.
All you'll be doing is adding a lot of 000000's to your file. I really doubt the conversion at that point alters any of the nuiances or transient harmonics in the original file.

Qwerty69


Why don't you try an external wave editor that supports batch processing. Make a backup copy of your audio data, use the wav editor to change everything to the new sample rate and bit depth, change Cakewalk to use those new settings and then futz with a backed up copy of the original project file to see if you can make it happen.

Please note I have never done this, so I have no idea if it would work but there has to be an easier way than importing everything a track at a time.

CJ - You are wrong to state that there is no advantage to converting files to a higher sample rate. If you are using plugins that do not internally upsample, then using them with converted files at a higher sample rate will give better/cleaner output from those plugins.

Ciao,

Q.

Dave that is actually what I had in mind. Change the audio rate in Audition and the 'fool' Sonar into reading the converted files.

I too like Qwerty was thinking about virtual instruments, specially since I never bounce them (and I use a ton of those).

Actually my aim is to preserve track order, audio VSTs on each track, virtual instruments with specific libraries and configs loaded, bus routing/config, tempo changes, console/track automations, etc.

So, it's not just 'record it again in a new project'!

much obliged all

The point of preserving the old files is to be able to record 'on top of them' on another track, as to A/B test for nuances, proper volume and positioning, etc. (once I am on 48k/24bit).

Plus some of those files are quite old, so I'd be recording with different (better) settings, surely.

Why not just finish up your old projects and be done with them?  File them away and only convert those bits and pieces that you "really" need at the higher rate...ie the ones you REALLY need for a new project.

Just wholesale converting your whole library/recording drive seems like useless "busywork" to me.  Comeon, there's ALWAYS something better to do, even if it's just dusting off your keyboards or playing an old guitar that you haven't touched in 10 years...

Positively Charged


Why not just finish up your old projects and be done with them?  File them away and only convert those bits and pieces that you "really" need at the higher rate...ie the ones you REALLY need for a new project.

Just wholesale converting your whole library/recording drive seems like useless "busywork" to me.  Comeon, there's ALWAYS something better to do, even if it's just dusting off your keyboards or playing an old guitar that you haven't touched in 10 years...

I guess turning to higher rates is a good chance to 'clean up/organize' my projects. But I usually erase stuff I don't need in them anyways.

Oops,  I described how to convert from 96kHz to 48kHz, as that's what I was doing at the time.
It worked fine though...

Dave Allison
Rename the audio folder to '96'
Use your favourite batch converter to convert all the audio files to 48kHz and save them with the same file names in a folder called '48'
Open the project, it will ask where the audio has gone
Tell it to use the audio in the '48' folder.

8 years later r8brain still is a great option.  I used it to convert from 44.1 to 48 (mostly 64float audio in the project) because a new Line 6 HD 500X was 48 native sampling rate.  A very useful utility and yep, Sonar guesses its sample rate from the audio files in the project.  It's an irritating "feature" and it would be nice if Sonar came with a bulk converter since it can tell the difference between bounced tracks (which should be rerendered) and original sources.  At least with r8brain you don't have to export and cut and paste everything by hand.

Old thread but using any Way editor to batch convert as stated above is easy. There are many free wave editors that do batch conversion to most any size and the ones I use allow you to create a target folder and name it. So you don't destroy the originals. 
 
My favourite Batch converter is Gold Wave http://www.goldwave.ca/release.php
free to try as long as you like but worth the $45 lifetime as they have been around a long time now and don't look to be going away. This is how I create my MP3's as it much faster than re exporting from Sonar. 

Here is a free batch sample rate converter.
Backup your project folders first though.
 
http://www.voxengo.com/product/r8brain/

Although you are indeed adding a bunch of zeros when you change the bit depth, if you do any processing, you are better off with the extra headroom, AFAIK...