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  • I'm confused about Sonar versions (n00b sorry)
2015/10/15 10:52:51
d00mbilly
If I buy the latest Cakewalk Sonar Professional, how is this different from "Producer" or "X3?"
The reason I'm asking is I have a very specific need beyond serving as my PC DAW software. I will be recording (among other stuff) a lot of bowed double bass. The performer is very concerned about their pitch being spot-on. So I want to be able to fix anything that might go wrong. The performer has a number of physical limitations that precludes multiple takes during tracking. I understand there are a bunch of free and high-priced plug-ins. But I guess I'm looking for something that works very well, for this specific task. I'm not averse to paying for a plug-in but it doesn't seem like it should cost a multiple of what Cakewalk costs. At least not to me. The reason for my original question is when I've searched for info re: Cakewalk and Pitch correction VST, I keep running into articles about X2 or X3 and Producer, so I'm not sure where I am in 2015 with versions and naming conventions. Yes, I did look through the forums 1st.  Also I am to install this product on Windows 10 lappy.
Regards,
Roger T.
2015/10/15 10:56:03
Doktor Avalanche
d00mbilly
If I buy the latest Cakewalk Sonar Professional, how is this different from "Producer" or "X3?"
The reason I'm asking is I have a very specific need beyond serving as my PC DAW software. I will be recording (among other stuff) a lot of bowed double bass. The performer is very concerned about their pitch being spot-on. So I want to be able to fix anything that might go wrong. The performer has a number of physical limitations that precludes multiple takes during tracking. I understand there are a bunch of free and high-priced plug-ins. But I guess I'm looking for something that works very well, for this specific task. I'm not averse to paying for a plug-in but it doesn't seem like it should cost a multiple of what Cakewalk costs. At least not to me. The reason for my original question is when I've searched for info re: Cakewalk and Pitch correction VST, I keep running into articles about X2 or X3 and Producer, so I'm not sure where I am in 2015 with versions and naming conventions. Yes, I did look through the forums 1st.  Also I am to install this product on Windows 10 lappy.
Regards,
Roger T.




Check (scroll down on this link):
https://www.cakewalk.com/Products/SONAR/Versions
 
Sonar Pro and Platinum comes with Melodyne. Check that out.
 
Cheers..
2015/10/15 11:08:25
d00mbilly
Awesome muchas gracias! That was so much better than the BS upsale reply I got from my sw33twater "sales engineer."
2015/10/15 11:54:26
John
You should consider Sonar Platinum it is equivalent to Producer X3.
2015/10/15 12:10:01
BobF
John
You should consider Sonar Platinum it is equivalent superior to Producer X3.




I fixed that for you.  I hope you don't mind
2015/10/15 12:11:46
John
Not at all Bob. I'm glad you did. LOL
2015/10/15 12:45:28
azslow3
d00mbilly
 I will be recording (among other stuff) a lot of bowed double bass. The performer is very concerned about their pitch being spot-on.

(answer from n00b, I assume I understand the question correctly, it can be not the case...).
 
Sonar (Professional and Platinum) as well as Sonar X3 Producer (previous top version) include license for Melodyne Essential as the pitch correction tool (before it was V-Vocal).
 
The problem is that Essential is not polyphonic ( http://www.celemony.com/en/melodyne/functions ) and so it is not good for bowed double bass correction.
 
Normally once you register Melodyne Essential you get time limited offer for upgrade to Melodyne Editor (polyphonic). While the offer is good, be prepared to pay significant money for such upgrade. And I suggest you clarify either you get that offer with Celemony, especially in case you select monthly payment membership for Sonar.
2015/10/15 14:11:06
gcolbert
I have a short-scale bass electric guitar that I use in most of my projects (X3 and Platinum).  It has a few intonation 'issues.'  My first task in mixing is to Melodyne my bass track(s).  Not sure if this helps, but it does work for me.
 
Glen
2015/10/15 15:08:44
Bristol_Jonesey
azslow3
d00mbilly
 I will be recording (among other stuff) a lot of bowed double bass. The performer is very concerned about their pitch being spot-on.
 
The problem is that Essential is not polyphonic ( http://www.celemony.com/en/melodyne/functions ) and so it is not good for bowed double bass correction. 



 
Whilst what you say about Melodyne is correct, we don't know what sort of performances the OP is expecting to record.
it could well be musical parts consisting of single, monophonic notes (not unusual with Double Bass ) in which case Essential is the perfect tool.
2015/10/15 16:14:02
d00mbilly
Yes, thank you all. I will be recording single-monophonic notes. Unless there is a bowing hand flub, there should not be more than 1 note playing at a time from the upright bass. If that happens we'll just try to punch in/out.
I'm really doing very scaled down recordings (few tracks, instruments). Essentially 1 vocalist, acoustic guitar, and double bass. Discosure I am the singer, guitar player. So I do not conceive needing a lot of bells and/or whistles with my recording format. The plan is to utilize a Focusrite 2i2 Scarlett as my interface. I don't expect to ever need more than 2 inputs/tracks at a time.  Having said that, are there really that many advantages for me to need Platinum over Pro?
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