Hey all!!
 
I´ve been trying to find a way to do this quickly in SONAR but so far no luck.
 
I have a beat of 8 bars and I would like to slice it up in even sub-divisions of 1/8ths so I can isolate all the sounds in the track.
Anybody any idea how to do this quickly?
I´ve tried with Audiosnap but the transients, although close to the project 1/8th subdivision, are always a bit off, so if I then use the SPLIT BEATS INTO CLIPS option, the beat will be splitted up in 1/8ths but on the transient markers, which normally don´t line up exactly with the project grid so I would have to move the transient markers around manually to line them up perfectly.
There must be another way to do this quickly......right....?
 
Thanks!!

Have you tried the Loop Construction view? I have not used that often, but it allows for slicing up a clip.

Have a look at:
http://www.fxpansion.com/index.php?page=120
 

The absolute easiest way is to use Propellerhead Software's ReCycle, which can cut natively at 1/16th note intervals, and then you can export each slice for re-importing into SONAR. You can fool Recycle into thinking the tempo is such that you can slice at 1/8th note intervals.
 
But, although SONAR doesn't have an automated way to do this there's a really sneaky method that's pretty fast if you're using loops, or if you're not, using clips that fit 2 - 4 - 8 - 16 bars. It actually might be faster than doing it in ReCycle, and you have your choice of rhythmic values.
 
But first, to make this as fast as possible, go Preferences > Customization > Editing. Under Clips, for "Selection After Single Split," choose "Both Portions." This really speeds things up because when you split the clip in step 5 below, you won't have to re-select the clip to do the next split. You'll see what I mean when you do this.
 
1. Set the tempo to the clip's native tempo if it's not a Groove Clip.
2. Open the loop in the loop construction window and if necessary, check "Loop On/Off" to turn on Looping.
3. Set the Slice Value drop-down menu to 1/8 Note and Threshold all the way left to 0%. There is now a slice on exactly every 1/8th note.
4. In the Track view, select the clip, place the Now time at the beginning of the clip, then hit Tab to step through the slices. Each time you hit a slice, type "s" to split the clip. Alt+Tab steps backwards through the slices.
 
This may sound complicated in theory; in practice, once you've added the transient markers in the loop construction window, the actual tab/split process for a clip takes only a few seconds and it's precise.
 
There are variations on this theme and it sounds like I should do a "long form" version for "Friday's Tip of the Week," but this should hold you over until then.

Craig, but then you need to bounce each slice to a new clip if you want to drag it to the browser, or to a Battery cell, to create a new sample, don't you? Which leads me to a question: is there any way of selecting a number of clips and bouncing them individually in a single go without gluing them together again?

JoseC.
Craig, but then you need to bounce each slice to a new clip if you want to drag it to the browser, or to a Battery cell, to create a new sample, don't you?

 
No, you don't. If you want to use them outside the project, export using the Multiple Clip Export feature introduced in Ipswich (but also see second answer below). I don't have Battery on my laptop here at Gibson, but you can drag clips directly from SONAR to a pad in Session Drummer's Mixer page without needing to bounce first...wouldn't be surprised if you can do the same thing in Battery.
 

Which leads me to a question: is there any way of selecting a number of clips and bouncing them individually in a single go without gluing them together again?

Yes. Exporting the clips to a folder in the browser removes the Groove Clip metadata so they become standard WAV files. Then you can drag them back into your project as individual clips. I created a folder called "Scratchpad" on the desktop, made it a custom location in the Browser, export to that, then bring back in to the project. Sounds more complicated than it is.

 
Craig, that´s great! Did as you said and that works perfectly
Thanks for the help!
 
 

Glad to help! And FWIW the Clip Export feature was a GREAT addition to Ipswich. A little under the radar, perhaps, but extremely useful if you do beats.

The alternative would be to just bite the bullet and purchase Geist with its awesome beat slicing capabilities....

At least keep an eye out for it on sale.

Although I use Geist for sequencing mostly nowadays, I did an import and tried out Sonar's inline piano roll. Haven't done that for a while. Was impressed. Still Geist is a killer app, version 2 coming out next year probably, Sonar should take a load of lessons from this and Melodyne.