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  • Slicing up a beat in even sub-divisions with SONAR? (p.2)
2015/10/14 22:54:59
Anderton
RESQ
I´ve been trying to find a way to do this quickly in SONAR but so far no luck.



He wanted to know how to do it in SONAR, so I obliged him.
 
Not everyone wants to pay an additional $249 for Geist on top of what they paid for SONAR, and it would be difficult to include the value of a $249 program in a $199 program like SONAR Professional or even a $499 program like SONAR Platinum.
 
I may be in a minority, but I would rather see Cakewalk concentrate on developing elements that other programs, particularly plug-ins, don't have. No matter how cool Geist is, and I of all people know just how cool it is, it appeals to a very small slice (geddit?) of people who use DAWs. The beauty of plug-ins is they can provide specialized, superbly implemented functionality; the downside is that level of performance, especially when you can't sell big numbers, doesn't come cheap.
 
I think it makes total sense that someone with a DAW selectively choose plug-ins that "accessorize" it to provide a particular function rather than try to include everything possible within a single platform. So yes, I highly recommend Geist if you need a hardcore drum machine/sampler/slicer/dicer/remixer and have a physical controller that can take advantage of it to the fullest. But if you just want to do basic, fast slicing and dicing, SONAR does a fine job as is. I'll cover at least part of this topic in "Friday's Tip of the Week," so stay tuned.
2015/10/14 23:41:10
Doktor Avalanche
I agree... but my copy of Geist cost about $70 from memory on a sale..
2015/10/15 03:30:52
mettelus
I have not seen Geist on sale for some time, but have not tracked it. It *used* to go on sale so 99USD every few months or so.
 
Craig's point is valid in that mimicking it would "reinvent the wheel" as it were, but some of the functionality exists in SONAR now that could be embellished to be more user friendly.
2015/10/15 15:58:50
JoseC.
Anderton
JoseC.
Craig, but then you need to bounce each slice to a new clip if you want to drag it to the browser, or to a Battery cell, to create a new sample, don't you?

 
No, you don't. If you want to use them outside the project, export using the Multiple Clip Export feature introduced in Ipswich (but also see second answer below). I don't have Battery on my laptop here at Gibson, but you can drag clips directly from SONAR to a pad in Session Drummer's Mixer page without needing to bounce first...wouldn't be surprised if you can do the same thing in Battery.
 
Which leads me to a question: is there any way of selecting a number of clips and bouncing them individually in a single go without gluing them together again?



Yes. Exporting the clips to a folder in the browser removes the Groove Clip metadata so they become standard WAV files. Then you can drag them back into your project as individual clips. I created a folder called "Scratchpad" on the desktop, made it a custom location in the Browser, export to that, then bring back in to the project. Sounds more complicated than it is.




Thanks, Craig, I hadn't noticed the Multiple Clip Export, since I am still using X3 :( Not for too long anyway, but I am moving shortly, and I am delaying the upgrade until I get a new desktop for the new studio in a couple of months.
 
Anyway, even in X3 you can drag wave files directly from the Track View to a Battery cell, but if you drag one of the slices of a sliced clip from there what you get is the whole clip again, unless you bounce it first to make the edits permanent. I was thinking more about bouncing all in place at the same time, to drag them them to the sampler from TV but your workflow makes even more sense to me, since I use Sonar's browser instead Battery's own browser for samples, anyway.
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