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2015/10/05 16:53:24
Beepster
Anderton
 
But not to the person who experiences this in the future and remembers what you said.




True dat. My "forum archiving/search indexing" philosophy towards commenting escaped me for a moment.
 
Been in a weird "useless" mood lately. Totes lame.
 
The Mighty K is one who'd know this stuff though but it could still be a brainfart. Dog knows I have them all the time.
2015/10/05 17:09:58
brundlefly
konradh
I put the cursor on the timeline and click to mark the start or thru or the paste location.  It appears that the time is always EXACTLY wherever I put the cursor which of course is seldom EXACTLY at a measure or bar, no matter how hard I try.  If you have Measure selected as the resolution/snap, you should be able to drag on the timeline just within a beat or two and get what you want.
 
The odd thing is how it just stopped working one day as though I bumped a keyboard shortcut by mistake.


So you're saying that selecting time ranges and setting the Now time in the timeline has just stopped snapping to measures in all projects with Global Snap enabled at a measure? Or just one particular project?
 
To/By won't affect selection in any case; it only affects moving things.
2015/10/05 17:34:27
teego
Have you tried increasing the magnetic strength in snap settings, just a shot in the dark but maybe it got changed on you.
2015/10/05 17:53:40
twelvetone
Another possibility is Snap Offset, although this is a per-clip setting, so most probably this is not the problem.
But just in case: If you open the clip inspector, the Snap Offset value should be 0.
 
2015/10/05 18:09:25
twelvetone
Oh, sorry, I misunderstood - OK.
I have this too. It has always behaved like this, even in Sonar 8 IIRC.
My workaround has always been to switch to split at Samples, not M:T:B
And by the way, there is a bug so the very first time, it ignores the change in the dialog box from M:T:B to Samples and splits at M:T:B anyway.
You need to do it once, let it mess up, then do an undo, try again, and only then does it split at sample (and only for as long as your Sonar session is open. Close and reopen Sonar, and you need to go throught that again.)
2015/10/05 18:18:05
twelvetone
Well, this is embarassing.
I have just tried it in my Hopkinton, and what I described above seems to have been fixed!
Apologies for adding to the noise.
I shall slink out the door now and hope nobody notices...
2015/10/05 22:24:57
konradh
I may just have to live with this until an upgrade, but in answer to questions:
 
- Snap to Grid is On and set to Measure
- Event Draw Duration is set to Whole (although that shouldn't matter)
- Audio Zero Crossings is Off
- Magnetic Strength is High (although I have tried every setting)
- With ticks per quarter=120, I dragged in a MIDI staff and got these From and To values: 5:04:073 to 6:03:102
- Dragging in the timeline (still set to Measure) I got 14:03:002 to 17:03:060
- Oddly it is EASIER (but not guaranteed) to get even 1/8 notes dragging in the Timeline, but of course I am not set to 1/8th.
 
2015/10/05 22:58:18
teego
Edit: Ignore this, I tried it and you would see the resolution is different at the module if you had hit this inadvertently.
 
 

 
 
By default, SONAR uses the global Snap to Grid settings when snap is enabled. However, you can also specify a secondary Snap to Grid resolution that is in effect when holding down the N key.
To assign the secondary Snap to Grid settings, hold down the N key while selecting the desired snap settings in the Control Bar’s Snap module.
To momentarily apply the secondary Snap to Grid resolution, hold down the N key while dragging or editing data that is snapping to the grid. When the N key is released, the main global snap settings are restored.
To swap the primary and secondary Snap to Grid settings, press CTRL+SHIFT+N.
  
Note: To enable/disable Snap to Grid, press the N key quickly. To assign or use the secondary Snap to Grid resolution, keep the N key pressed.
  
Tip: You can configure the secondary Snap to Grid resolution to effectively bypass snapping when holding down the N key. To do so, hold down the N key while disabling the snap resolution and snap landmarks in the Control Bar’s Snap module. Snapping will now be temporarily disabled while you hold down the N key.
2015/10/07 08:12:44
stevec
konradh
I may just have to live with this until an upgrade, but in answer to questions:
 
- Snap to Grid is On and set to Measure
- Event Draw Duration is set to Whole (although that shouldn't matter)
- Audio Zero Crossings is Off
- Magnetic Strength is High (although I have tried every setting)
- With ticks per quarter=120, I dragged in a MIDI staff and got these From and To values: 5:04:073 to 6:03:102
- Dragging in the timeline (still set to Measure) I got 14:03:002 to 17:03:060
- Oddly it is EASIER (but not guaranteed) to get even 1/8 notes dragging in the Timeline, but of course I am not set to 1/8th.
 




Have you tried turning Snap off and back on again, then changing the Snap value to something else and then back to Measure again?  You know, sort of "resetting" both?
 
2015/10/07 13:34:12
brundlefly
It's still not clear whether this is all projects, including a new one started from Platinum's default Normal template...? Possibly you have one or more project templates from which you're creating all your projects that have some issue in common.
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