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  • I May Have Solved the "End of Song" Mystery (p.4)
2015/10/08 10:18:26
bapu
skinnybones lampshade
I agree wholeheartedly with Afrodrum.

Howard Johnson: Dr. Samuel Johnson's right about Olson Johnson being right. 
2015/10/08 10:20:37
Doktor Avalanche
Anderton
I think some people would like it to force an end to recording, but I would most definitely not want that. I would prefer that recording be able to keep going past the end because you might end up playing past the end and want to keep what you play.


Well you are still inviting discussion here so maybe best create another thread in problem reports and email support with project.

In regards to your quote above,if the end marker is set to infinity by default (ie not set), as should be by design anyway (it would be stupid to default to the some default time period upon a new project would it not?), it should not effect you in the slightest. In addition you could have an option in preferences to ignore the end marker when recording.
2015/10/08 10:23:16
ampfixer
I'm inclined to agree with Craig. To me it's more important to find out why Sonar throws these odd controller values down the timeline. Whenever I have a case where the track fails to stop playback at the end of data, I have to start a search through the controller data on each track and the take lanes. It takes time and I've never been able to figure out how these events are generated. The end of song marker seems like a work around as opposed to a fix.
 
Just sayin'.
2015/10/08 10:31:53
Doktor Avalanche
I'm not saying Craig's issue shouldn't be fixed, it should! Point is people who don't want an end marker would just avoid the facility (business as usual),and therefore should be at no disadvantage, however the advantages of having one are pretty obvious, set and forget about it. That would be extremely useful for those who do want it. Both parties get to have their cake and eat it.
2015/10/08 13:04:48
kevinwal
I too have the mysterious dotted automation lines appearing willy-nilly well past the end of the song, and I've not been able to discern exactly why they get put there. Was it something I inadvertently caused to happen? I do a lot of cutting and pasting during arrange sessions and I suspect it has something to do with that but I don't know for sure. I would love to know what the "rules" are for these things.
 
As to the end-of-song marker, it would be useful for me. I often record bits in a non-linear way and place them well after the body of the song, then use them when I'm ready. I often end up not using these bits in the song I'm working on for whatever reason, but like them enough to not want to lose them. Incidentally, I'd love to have the ability to put these in some kind of "idea bag" in a way that's well integrated in the workflow.
 
Anyway, I often only want to render the tune without the music blocks at the end, and an end-of-song marker would be useful to easily exclude them. Yes I know I can highlight the timeline to render only the parts I want, but that often results in many more clicks because I tend to render a lot to test the sound quality at various mp3 quality levels. Also, I'm often zoomed in, so to select the timeline part with any accuracy I usually have to adjust the zoom level first, then select the timeline portion. Not a big deal, but quite a few clicks that an end-of-song marker would tend to substantially reduce.
 
All that being said, I don't consider an end-of-song marker to be a high priority, must-have feature whereas I do consider the anomalous automation event issue to be important.
 
 
2015/10/08 13:29:02
Leadfoot
bapu
skinnybones lampshade
I agree wholeheartedly with Afrodrum.

Howard Johnson: Dr. Samuel Johnson's right about Olson Johnson being right. 

Reverend!!
2015/10/08 17:44:35
teego
I wonder if this is really an issue anymore , I checked several more recent projects and they all end at the last spot I stopped recording. I also wonder if some of the copy and paste issues that are now fixed could have been putting that data out past the end of the song in the older projects. Just curious if anyone is seeing this in projects created since the Hopkington update?
 
2015/10/08 17:55:41
Guitarpima
Anderton
Guitarpima
I don't think so. I think Sonar is just broken. I've had projects with no automation and still have the problem. 



See post #3. I already addressed this, but I can understand how signal sometimes get buried by noise.




I guess you would know. Have a nice day!
2015/10/08 18:00:58
Afrodrum
teego
I wonder if this is really an issue anymore , I checked several more recent projects and they all end at the last spot I stopped recording.  (...)




That's the  point, I may want  song to be finished way before "the last spot I stopped recording".
2015/10/08 18:16:01
Leadfoot
I just use the "select loop region" option. Works great.
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