• SONAR
  • Audio FX ...where's speed / pitch change option gone ? SOLVED Time/ Pitch 2 (p.2)
2015/10/07 16:30:24
John
As long as one installs only the one plugin there will be no problems. 
2015/10/07 16:32:17
componentrare123
Thanks again for help...the one good thing about problems and upgrades and whatever is all the great support and concern one gets from this forum ...and you can always rely on it too.

I did reinstall Sonar 7 a while ago but I there were numerous crashes ..which is one reason I upgraded to X1D...

As for what I'm trying to do...remember recording on a tape recorder (well some of you old timers might ) you recorded at half speed an octave down, then played back at normal tempo...and you had a bright zappy full on effect...that's all I'm trying to get in Sonar. But....I liked the quick easy way the absent Time Pitch efx did it...I don't want a long messy process to replace it, Audio Labs had a good time/pitch process on there cleaning lab and I hope I can get it again.
2015/10/07 17:03:36
Beepster
componentrare123
Thanks again for help...the one good thing about problems and upgrades and whatever is all the great support and concern one gets from this forum ...and you can always rely on it too.

I did reinstall Sonar 7 a while ago but I there were numerous crashes ..which is one reason I upgraded to X1D...

As for what I'm trying to do...remember recording on a tape recorder (well some of you old timers might ) you recorded at half speed an octave down, then played back at normal tempo...and you had a bright zappy full on effect...that's all I'm trying to get in Sonar. But....I liked the quick easy way the absent Time Pitch efx did it...I don't want a long messy process to replace it, Audio Labs had a good time/pitch process on there cleaning lab and I hope I can get it again.



If that's all you then the Loop Constuctor/Groove Clip stuff will get you there (which Craig mentioned).
 
 Halve your project tempo then record your 8ve down/half speed clip normally, turn it into a Groove Clip and set it to obey Tempo AND Pitch changes. Then when you bring the tempo back up it will speed up as well. Then just increase the pitch in the Clip Inspector (I think) or Loop Inspector.
 
If there are artifacts go into Loop Constructor and futz with the slices for better quality/transient accuracy.
 
You could also use the Timing Tool to speed up a regular audio clip then use the DSP Transpose tool (like Craig also mentioned) or Melodyne to adjust pitch.
 
If you have X1 then you have access to VVocal as well which I think does kind of "Varispeed" effects such as this.
 
BTW... Varispeed is the general term you'll want to use when looking for solutions to this (plenty of third party plugs that do this and there is a Feature Request on this forum for a proper Varispeed effect to be implemented).
 
Good luck.
2015/10/07 18:21:22
componentrare123
Solved....

I loaded Sonar 7 back on my system and then checked SonarX1D...lo and behold the Time/Pitch 2 is back in the Cakewalk efx. And it works perfectly well. So it has easily transferred from Sonar 7 to X1D...

I also, with trepidation, loaded a project into Sonar 7 and played...it did not crash the system as before .
I checked another problem I had of jerky scrolling and thick treacle dragging and found that in the Sonar 7 it was smooth as silk...while on the X1 the problem was still there.

Many thanks to all for your time and help...
2015/10/07 19:12:17
Kev999
Anderton
I think it was removed with X3...

 
Are you sure it's been discontinued totally? I suspect that it is still included in the 32-bit version of Sonar. I'll check later.
2015/10/07 19:49:40
Anderton
componentrare123
I tried the looping thing...all I'm getting is jerky erratic playback ...nothing like slowed or speeded up audio.

 
I think you probably didn't follow the instructions in the article, which describes how to use the Loop Construction View's pitch-shifting functionality, NOT the looping functionality. If you enable looping you won't be able to do what I describe.
 
2015/10/07 19:54:06
Anderton
componentrare123
As for what I'm trying to do...remember recording on a tape recorder (well some of you old timers might ) you recorded at half speed an octave down, then played back at normal tempo...and you had a bright zappy full on effect...that's all I'm trying to get in Sonar.



Okay, that's easy to do with the Loop Construction View, and you'll find the audio quality much better than using the old FX. Even better, you've given me the topic for the next "Friday's Tip of the Week"!
2015/10/09 12:04:50
Anderton
It's now posted at the tip for Week 62. I have to say I was rather surprised at the fidelity of the slowed-down audio. Made it easy to play along with it...enjoy!
2015/10/10 01:57:47
Kev999
Kev999
...I suspect that it is still included in the 32-bit version of Sonar. I'll check later.

 
I may or may not be correct about this. I realise that the OP said that "Time/Pitch Stretch 2" was missing until he installed Sonar 7, but it's definitely present on my laptop, which only has X2 and X3 installed, and no earlier versions. Go figure.

But, even in Sonar 7, this feature is present in the 32-bit edition but absent from the 64-bit edition. Same in other versions. So if you go looking for it in any 64-bit Sonar you won't find it.
12
© 2026 APG vNext Commercial Version 5.1

Use My Existing Forum Account

Use My Social Media Account