Susan G

AndertonSONAR users are simply a better class of people.

 
Wow. That's quite a statement. Some of my best friends use other DAWs (as do I at times.) Maybe you left out a smiley?
 
-Susan

No, it was in reference to the previous sentence - being better than the people who go into forums and show a distinct lack of courtesy to the company paying to keep the forum running. Plenty of users of other software that are better than that, too...for example you don't see Reason users come in here and complain about SONAR.
 
Don't forget I'm someone who uses other DAWs, too, so I visit other forums. I don't see SONAR people in there doing what this guy did. Perhaps the reason why lies in the post by the Maartian immediately following mine:
 

TheMaartian
Do I go back to the PreSonus forum and post about how much I now dislike S1 and prefer SONAR? Nope. Why not?
 
Who the hell has the time? Not me.

Anderton

Susan G

AndertonSONAR users are simply a better class of people.

 
Wow. That's quite a statement. Some of my best friends use other DAWs (as do I at times.) Maybe you left out a smiley?
 
-Susan

No, it was in reference to the previous sentence - being better than the people who go into forums and show a distinct lack of courtesy to the company paying to keep the forum running. Plenty of users of other software that are better than that, too...for example you don't see Reason users come in here and complain about SONAR.
 
Don't forget I'm someone who uses other DAWs, too, so I visit other forums. I don't see SONAR people in there doing what this guy did. Perhaps the reason why lies in the post by the Maartian immediately following mine:
 

TheMaartian
Do I go back to the PreSonus forum and post about how much I now dislike S1 and prefer SONAR? Nope. Why not?

Who the hell has the time? Not me.

i really don't understand why you bother with the tit-for-tatting - why even give it the time of day - the whole "defending the honour" thing (someone's wrong on teh interwebz!!?!?!111) is also something missing from other forums

pwalpwal
 
i really don't understand why you bother with the tit-for-tatting - why even give it the time of day

If someone asks a question, I feel an obligation to respond. I'll get over it someday...the result of moderating forums for 20 years, I guess.
 

At last I understand. The forum is a Monty Python sketch!

John
At last I understand. The forum is a Monty Python sketch!

No it's not. 

Abuse is down the hall ...

Lookit... I'm sure the Baker's are aware of the desire for this type of workflow. I want it myself. In the meantime when I'm arranging/composing I lay down all the riffs, beats, bass and other "foundation" type components, trim them up nicely so they snap well and drag a hunk of each down the timeline (so they are out of my working area... so if the song is 3 mintues long all those clips are at the 5 min+ mark). This is MIDI or audio or whatever and the clips stay on their own tracks so I don't even have to think about what they are when arranging.
 
Then if I want something to repeat or switch to another riff I (with snap enabled) just move crap out of the way (slip edit or drag/snap or delete) and draw from my "riff/beat/bass" pool Ctrl copy dragging the various elements into the holes I created (and slip edit/multi paste them accordingly).
 
I build up the song and each part that way then once I'm happy with it I practice it all and record the finals.
 
I COULD loopty loop the buggers with a bit of in/out fades or groove looping or Cyclone/Matrix stuff but I prefer to have a full performance.
 
This workflow also allows for much more creativity IMO because maybe I want my "block" of beats to not actually be a "block". Maybe I want a beat to carry on while another (or new riff) is played or whatever. Of course that can be done with Block stuff too but by having to make the extra moves I gotta really think before I act and might end up iwth a more thoughtful composition.
 
Whatevs... I do want block stuff and I anticipate it coming to Sonar at some point but there are ways around this that aren't that hard to do. I may make a video if I ever get my sh*t together.
 
It just takes a little gumption and imagination to make happen at this point which I think most Sonar users have in spades.
 
Relying on block shiz for final production is just lazy and likely produce inferior results. Set up your song with it for sure but your better off using a sample/trigger or grooveclip scenario if that's your thing. I much prefer to just play/perform what I wrote whenever possible.
 
Meh.

n13L5
Studio One's "Arranger Track" function allows you to create song sections that cut through all project tracks, allowing you to easily copy or move a bridge or refrain to another section of the song with all tracks attached and aligned.
 

I've done this using the Matrix. I create clips, of the different sections of a song, and put them in cells, and arrange away.

S.L.I.P.

n13L5
Studio One's "Arranger Track" function allows you to create song sections that cut through all project tracks, allowing you to easily copy or move a bridge or refrain to another section of the song with all tracks attached and aligned.
 

I've done this using the Matrix. I create clips, of the different sections of a song, and put them in cells, and arrange away.

While that's not exactly what the OP wants, it's still a very clever way to test out arrangements in SONAR. Nice.

Anderton

Susan G

AndertonSONAR users are simply a better class of people.

 
Wow. That's quite a statement. Some of my best friends use other DAWs (as do I at times.) Maybe you left out a smiley?
 
-Susan

No, it was in reference to the previous sentence - being better than the people who go into forums and show a distinct lack of courtesy to the company paying to keep the forum running. Plenty of users of other software that are better than that, too...for example you don't see Reason users come in here and complain about SONAR.
 
Don't forget I'm someone who uses other DAWs, too, so I visit other forums. I don't see SONAR people in there doing what this guy did. Perhaps the reason why lies in the post by the Maartian immediately following mine:
 

TheMaartian
Do I go back to the PreSonus forum and post about how much I now dislike S1 and prefer SONAR? Nope. Why not?

Who the hell has the time? Not me.

Hi Craig-
 
Okay, I apparently misunderstood you when you said "SONAR users are simply a better class of people."
 
Thanks-
 
-Susan