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Thank you guys, so much!

I had tried AVS Video, and it didn't work, so I'm curious to try some of the others here.

Very cool!

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Once again, anyone finding it easier/better to score in X1, than 8.5.3?

Thanks, guys!

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I'm a little curious about the notion that there is some sort of Quicktime 64bit format.

Usually, Video barely makes it past 12 bits.


I suspect, but am also asking; Isn't it really the case that Quicktime, the 64 bit application, produces videos in a codec that is not available for 64 bit windows.

In other words it's not the 64bit QuickTime that is the problem... it's the codec... the codec isn't cross platform or open to other players.


I'm just pointing that out because I am reading a thread that has been populated by true working professionals and no one seems comfortable identifying the codec nor does anyone seem eager to acknowledge the fact that the confusion is created by a confusion about codecs.

The best way to achieve clarity while discussing the easiest work around will require that everyone start speaking about codecs with some familiarity. Each user will need to acquire some knowledge about how they are specifically interacting with codecs.


The problems start when a video editing professional (who rarely seems to know much about codecs either) hands a musician a video with a codec that the musician can't seem to play. The the musician seems to know that embarrassing the video editor by questioning their choice of codec isn't good for business.

The best solution is too learn all about codecs and to learn how to quickly react to any situation.


I do understand the need for quick turn around times and the undesirability of having to convert to another codec... but that is a situation forced upon us by what ever relationship we have with the video house... if the video house really cared... they would export the video in something that everyone could play. If turn around time when working with a Mac centric house is paramount... you are probably going to want to get a Mac... because nothing will be settling down in the codec wars for another decade or so.


very best regards,
mike

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Thanks, Mike.

As usual, your post is very helpful, indeed.

This is actually my conclusion, as well. 

All the options I've tried so far to play newer mac movies in Sonar - 
including all the conversion attempts - have been frustrating and impossible. 
Probably time to get a Mac.

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Any progress since last October :) ....It seems things haven't changed much, but perhaps there are some new reliable workarounds for converting or wrapping brand new format Avid and FC-based QT movies - so I can play them in Sonar 8.5 or X1 64-bit?

I'm just wondering if we have more solid workarounds - or if everyone is just converting/wrapping QT files in Vegas, Premiere, Final Cut, Quicktime Pro, some Avid Product, or other universal converter/wrapper - for Sonar video import.

I'm downloading Avid Studio now to try out the converter. Between this and the new version of Quicktime Pro (if there is one), I'm wondering if I'll be covered. But seeing as Avid and FC seem to create the problem in the first place, hmmmmm....

If AVid Studio works, it certainly will be $500 cheaper than buying Vegas just to convert 30 second videos!  

OTOH, I don't know if Avid is planing on phasing out their low end video sw products?        

Thanks, as always, guys! 

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Still using Vegas and not sure why you worry about scoring with QT 64 bit.  It is just asking for trouble.  THe newer QT files are giving my machines fits just playing them without X1.

Vegas comes in different versions.  I think $39 is the cheapest.  The version I use was about $100,  but that was years ago.  I would not spend much money just to convert videos.  If you are scoring to picture a lot you will do yourself a big favor and have something like Vegas.  Just today I scored the opening sequence to a video where the client sent me a :20 graphic that will be added in.  I popped everything into Vegas, placed the graphic and generated a Mpeg-1.  I had a new music  sample for my client and looked like I know what I'm doing (very questionable!) within hours without complaining that I could not place the graphic. 

Jimbo 88


Still using Vegas and not sure why you worry about scoring with QT 64 bit.  It is just asking for trouble.  THe newer QT files are giving my machines fits just playing them without X1.

Vegas comes in different versions.  I think $39 is the cheapest.  The version I use was about $100,  but that was years ago.  I would not spend much money just to convert videos.  If you are scoring to picture a lot you will do yourself a big favor and have something like Vegas.  Just today I scored the opening sequence to a video where the client sent me a :20 graphic that will be added in.  I popped everything into Vegas, placed the graphic and generated a Mpeg-1.  I had a new music  sample for my client and looked like I know what I'm doing (very questionable!) within hours without complaining that I could not place the graphic. 

Hey Thanks, Jimbo.


So, you downsample the new files in Vegas to older Qt format for Sonar?


Cheers!


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No,  I convert the QT into an Mpeg-1 or an AVI. 

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Thanks, man!

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CW really has to decide if they want to offer scoring to picture functionality.

It's very frustrating, because they're always just at the edge of making it work...

I was spoiled working with 32-bit Sonar and the 32-bit QT codec - it was awesome.

For that one brief moment in time, they did it right - 
It was like WOW, for once it's HAPPENING, and I can score to picture with ease in Sonar! 

I was getting scoring work - JUST because of that!    
Because the turnaround time was so quick.

I can't believe they would take this away from us.

In a professional music production environment in 2011, you REALLY need this functionality!! 

And most files from serious production houses are 64-bit  .mov files.  

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It's the same with notation which is frequently used in conjunction with video.  Cakewalk has absolutely no interest in bringing these tools up to the level of the competition.  The upcoming Digital Performer for Windows improves on an already robust set of notation and video tools.  Sadly, Cakewalk just doesn't care about these.