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I don't like to think of leaving Sonar to score to picture - because Sonar is such a great platform for handling boatloads of .vst instruments and effects, and I love all the native tools and GUI. Plus, I've always loved Sonar because it's just so easy to use. 

AFAICT, there's really not another DAW that will outperform on a production level this easily. I'm simply not into tying myself into Logic knots - I've been down that road before.

I wonder if I could sync another machine to my DAW to play movies in a different app, somehow. Hmmmmm....

I really wish Apple weren't such greedy bastards.

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I'm not sure why you have to leave Sonar to score picture.  I do it everyday and have for 20+years. You don't need to jump thru hoops to get another machine to playback your video.  

Drop your video into a video editing program or use QuickTIme Pro to generate a format that Sonar likes.  Then take advantange of Sonar's platform for handling instruments and effects like you said.  

I drop my Quicktimes (or any vidoe I recieve) into Vegas,  create streamers (Page Rolls) that in indicate where music starts and stops.  I render Segments or Acts if I'm doing TV (approx 10 minutes of program between commercials)  or just the area of where a music cue would go if I'm doing a film.  It makes scoring to pic quick and easy.....and totally fun.  It's hard to believe i get paid to do this.

 

I use WinFF to convert to AVS for import. Then I export the audio from Sonar and paste the new audio back with the original .mov movie using Quicktime pro. WinFF is free. Quicktime pro is $20.

I'll repeat myself here:

There is a free program called Super by eright software I think available here

Be careful - read the text all around the various links on the pages so that you are actually downloading SUPER.

its dated several times each year and there are links on the same pages for other free codec packs. I have not found an audio or video file it can't handle. it's SUPER.

Hey Jimbo, quick question.
I'm totally with you on the "get a file, drop it into Vegas, get an MPG1 or AVI, work with sonar", but when you're done with the music files and your clients ask you for a copy of the video clip with embedded compositions in .mov (because they work on Apple machines), do you:

- generate a video file within Sonar and convert that too with vegas back to mov
- output the audio only from sonar and load the track into vegal to line it up with the movie

You might have made me realise that I've been wasting a lot of time with sonar's export function!

I lay back soundtracks to .mov files all the time. Don't use Sonar, just buy the QuickTime Pro license. QTPro makes it really simple to strip out the old soundtrack and lay in the new one with no re-encoding of the video.

SUPER is an alround program/

It takes an audio inpout and Visiop inpout and enables you to select the container be it wmv or mov or whatever you want.

You can grab a video file and strip the audio and video out into formats of your choice.

You can change audio sample rates and video formats, screen size and resolutions all in one intuitive interface.

massimo_max


Hey Jimbo, quick question.
I'm totally with you on the "get a file, drop it into Vegas, get an MPG1 or AVI, work with sonar", but when you're done with the music files and your clients ask you for a copy of the video clip with embedded compositions in .mov (because they work on Apple machines), do you:

- generate a video file within Sonar and convert that too with vegas back to mov
- output the audio only from sonar and load the track into vegal to line it up with the movie

You might have made me realise that I've been wasting a lot of time with sonar's export function!

Yes the video export function is another reason to use Vegas.  I use to do it this way:
1) export a stereo .wav and then open the original Vegas file.  
2) Drop in the new music and gerenate a QuickTime.
 
The problem I ran into -- The Vegas QT files started having phase issues.  I think it started with the last Vegas update.
 
So the new way for me is to:
1) export a stereo wav.
2) open  the Mpeg-1 that I created to score with in Sonar with Quicktime Pro and "Add To Movie"  (you have to open your wav in QuickTime also to copy and paste it).
3) Generate a new Quicktime file.
 
Exporting audio out of Sonar is great.  Exporting video not so much, so I leave that to the video programs.  Also, I do the video work on an older computer, leaving my DAW free for me to work while I generate and send QT music samples.   Hope that helps..      

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Lots of great ideas here, guys.

MUCH appreciated.

I'm trying some, and we'll see what works.

Thanks a ton!

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+1 on Quicktime Pro. I tried a lot of freebie options, but nothing beats the reliablity I have experienced using uncompressed .avi's from QT. The 'add to movie' function, and 'Export for Web' option are great for sharing demo's with clients.