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  • First Attempt For Realtime Synth Recording-HELP! (p.2)
2015/09/25 15:53:30
Sidroe
I don't know how much trouble it would be to re-do the video but it would be an awful big help to go through the process but include the steps for using the synth rack to access and load sounds in to DimPro or Rapture, etc. after splitting the Simple Instrument. I believe that would be a big help for those of us who hardly ever use Simple Instruments or the Synth Rack. Especially, a newbie! I was still not getting loading sounds via the synth rack. The video has helped but that crucial step was missing. Not complaining! Just trying to help.
2015/09/25 16:36:00
kennywtelejazz
Wow Cakewalk staff ,
 
That looks like a real nice feature ,  also that is very good video ….
 
Can you layer ? Meaning keeping the audio track you recorded in real time and changing the synth patch ?
 
Kenny
 
2015/09/25 16:55:09
jimkleban
So, the problem I have trying to record synth's in real time is MIDI/TRACK latency.  In the video, it was a simple project with only a few tracks.
 
What happens when a project has 50 audio tracks and 15 midi synths playing the synths in real time?  That is, does latency rear its ugly head in this scenario?
 
Just curious because I was underwhelmed by the video and wonder if I should be real excited?
 
Jim
2015/09/25 17:03:24
scook
kennywtelejazz
Can you layer ? Meaning keeping the audio track you recorded in real time and changing the synth patch ?

Yes
2015/09/25 17:13:05
scook
jimkleban
What happens when a project has 50 audio tracks and 15 midi synths playing the synths in real time?  That is, does latency rear its ugly head in this scenario?



This is no different than dealing with latency in previous versions of SONAR. The latency experienced when tracking MIDI is the sum of the playback latency from the audio interface buffers and plug-in delay compensation. If the interface buffers cannot be set low enough, then the complexity of the project needs to be addressed. One way is bounce a temporary mix from the existing tracks, archive all but the bounced track.
 
If the interface buffer settings are at their normal recording settings and latency is still a problem, it is most likely PDC. A temporary mix addresses this too but it might be solved by identifying the problem plug-ins and freeze those tracks or temporarily replace the plug-ins with tracking friendly plug-ins.
2015/09/25 17:30:14
kennywtelejazz
scook
kennywtelejazz
Can you layer ? Meaning keeping the audio track you recorded in real time and changing the synth patch ?

Yes




@scook 
 
Excellent  
 
I might just pull the trigger and upgrade from X3  …My B… Day is in a couple of weeks & I may want to do something special to celebrate ….
 
Kenny
2015/09/25 20:28:46
Susan G
scook
Sidroe
 You have to use Simple Instrument and split the track as the video shows.

Not true. In post #2 above, no SIT was created, just inserted the synth with an audio and MIDI track.


The video does kinda make it look like you have to start with a SIT (at least for newbies who are most apt to follow it to the letter.)  Maybe making one or the other example with separate MIDI/audio tracks would make it more clear that it can be done either way.
 
-Susan
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