jamesattfield
My FW-410 has been rock-steady for a long time now and if M-Audio decide not to produce W10 drivers I will not think badly of them - it seems unreasonable and not a little naive to expect manufacturers to produce drivers for legacy products for ever. I won't have any qualms about buying another product from them.

You have to admit that it's a sad state of affairs when you're forced to throw out a perfectly functioning piece of equipment and then spend a substantial amount of money to replace it.  How hard could it be to port a driver to a new OS.  Presuming the OS just affects the [edit] bottom top layer of your software and you still have a programmer or two lying around it would be what, a weekend's trouble ?  The companies should put their drivers into the public domain if they no longer want to maintain them.  Or are they playing the planned obsolescence game.

Like I say, a little naive. If you think you can reprogram a driver after a major OS re-jig by just 'twiddling' it over a weekend (and btw TEST it satisfactorily to commercial production standard) with a couple of chaps with nothing better to do you clearly know a lot more about software development than the rest of us and enough of the conspiracy theories already - few companies will donate their IP (some of which is still in use in later products) to the PD so their competitors can just pick it up. Like I say, a little naive.

Paul P

jamesattfield
My FW-410 has been rock-steady for a long time now and if M-Audio decide not to produce W10 drivers I will not think badly of them - it seems unreasonable and not a little naive to expect manufacturers to produce drivers for legacy products for ever. I won't have any qualms about buying another product from them.

You have to admit that it's a sad state of affairs when you're forced to throw out a perfectly functioning piece of equipment and then spend a substantial amount of money to replace it.  How hard could it be to port a driver to a new OS.  Presuming the OS just affects the [edit] bottom top layer of your software and you still have a programmer or two lying around it would be what, a weekend's trouble ?  The companies should put their drivers into the public domain if they no longer want to maintain them.  Or are they playing the planned obsolescence game.

Damn right!
 
I stepped on and broke the little wireless dongle for my keyboard/mouse whilst decorating.
No replacement could be found anywhere so I had to throw out a perfectly functioning kbd + mouse 

batsbrew
my Maudio Audiophile 192 is rock solid on Win XP.
 
what am i missing?

 
Ditto on my Focusrite Saffire firewire... on XP pro

If it ain't broke ....don't fix it.

My Mackie 1200f works in win 8.1 via FireWire despite the fact Mickie abandoned this years ago... It's a great unit!

The A/D buisness is a nasty one for sure.  The biggest problem I have is quality vs functionality.  However don't fool yourself into thinking this is only a problem for FireWire.  It's a problem in the industry for not supporting newer platforms and newer OS's, so either you don't upgrade or you have a several hundred (or thousand) dollar paper weight.
 
I like PreSonus' hardware and innovation.  Dollar for Dollar they have some great deals for the functionality.  However their driver support sucks.  I'd read somewhere that they outsource their driver support, which would explain why updates take forever, and often times don't work at all.
 
My long story with my relationship with the AudioBox 18x18VSL, goes back to buying it after talking with a PreSonus Rep.  I was really impressed with the Studio Live functionality, and the ability to get EQ, compression, and gating on every channel before recording the signal, that was huge!  Especially on my limited budget.  However it really sucked when I had to buy a new laptop and discovered their driver was incompatible with the newer Intel USB 3.0 ports.  Their advice to me was to plug it into a USB 2.0 port, the only problem being is my laptop had all USB 3.0 ports.  That was back in mid 2013, and they only recently resolved the issue.  I had since sold the unit and moved to a FocusRite Scarlet 18i20.  I love the mic-pre's on this, but to be honest I hate the layout of the thing compared to the PreSonus.  I hate having 2 inputs on the front and the remainder on the back, it just makes cabling more difficult and I don't like the look of it.  The PreSonus having all the inputs on the front was very convenient for me.  The bigger problem was not having the VSL effects, which FocusRite offers nothing like this on USB interfaces.
 
Since the problem was resolved with the VSL.  I bought another 18x18 VSL and use my FocusRite through ADAT.  However I worry about what kind of support it will have for Windows 10, since PreSonus is so bad about sustaining their older product lines.  And when I say "older", I mean stuff that was introduce 2-3 years ago.
 

Best thing I ever used was the Edirol FA-66 on Win XP.
But that was when USB was supposedly inferior to FW.
Nowadays USB is good and seemingly everywhere. FireWire is now becoming more and more of an afterthought on a new PC, laptop, tablet.

I've just built a new PC. The X79 Sabertooth MOBO has an FW port. I have also added a PCI FW card. I plug in my Mackie Blackbird to either, and it's not even recognised. I've been trawling through pages of forums trying to find an answer. I've loaded the 8.1 legacy driver, but still nothing. I'm awaiting a response from Asus (MOBO manufacturer) to see if they have any suggestions regarding set up, or if there's something I haven't done.
 
As an experiment, I removed the PCI FW card an installed an ancient Creative Soundblaster Audigy 2 card, because it has a FW port for connecting it's I/O box. I plug in the Blackbird to it and it does at least see it. Incredibly frustrating.
Could anyone on here who is successfully running FW on Windows 8.1 x64 please tell me what they did to get it going please, if they are using a card or plugging directly into their case or MOBO.
Really regretting going for 8.1 now. If I cant get this to work then I either go down the USB route, or uninstall 8.1 and go back to W7 x64.

Yea,  it seems firewire is on the way out.  I am currently not using firewire (had a presonus 26X26, and also a firestudio mobile). I am using the Roland Studio Capture (16X10) Audio interface. I have had really good experience with this interface - works flawless.
 

TC Impact Twin still sounding and working above it's price point here.
 
Speaking of price and not being made of money, I can hardly be too mad in future years if I have to make a change after getting several past years out of a $300 audio interface. I got over 12 years out of a delta 1010 that I could still be using if I wanted. I also remember the price I paid for an ISA Card-D plus. Ouch.