Sonar will never compete with ProTools?? I just junked ProTools LE for Sonar. I finally got fed up when the PT version I had wouldn't work (at all) when IE 8 is installed on the same computer, and DigiDesign nickles-an-dimes you, and they never did fix that incompatibility bug. They make you buy another update. And anyway, I don't care how great the specs are on PT, I can make equally good music MUCH more easily in Sonar. I do video/documentary music and art electronic music (not so much with Sonar.... Kyma instead), but I think Sonar is at this point a superior product overall, in terms of useability, to PT. So, yeah, maybe PT is an industry standard, and I stupidly wasted time learning it because of that reputation. And yeah maybe PT has a few better specs, but after working with it a little, I don't give a poop about standards. When and if I should run up yet against any audible problems because of 'lower specs' with Sonar, maybe I'll consider something else.
 
Budsy

Sonar has much higher specs then PT of any version.

ProTools' daddy is bigger than Sonar's daddy.    

This thread just trips me out. What gives? Does it really matter what tools we use to do our job? It's like carpenters arguing over whose hammer is better.

Look, like it or not, ProTools is the most ubiquitous DAW in the industry. However if it does not
float your boat use something else. Obviously there are quite a few alternatives.

And for the record, there are a lot of people who take PT LE seriously, just maybe not the yahoo who is using it. Especially with the complete production toolkit, very powerful.

When I attended school we were trained on both Mac and PC in Pro Tools HD/LE, Nuendo, Logic, Reason, and on 2" Studer tape machines. Their point was that you may not walk into the exact situation you were trained in, but you will be aware of the alternative formats in the industry.

Personally, i plan to have a DAW with as many Hosts as possible to maximize my talents and abilities for my clients and their projects.

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I'm trying to figure out why this ancient thread (December 2005) was resurrected (or why it was started in the first place)...

I first used it way back in the early 90's when it was only stereo and it was called SOUND TOOLS.

Come to think of it - that's the LAST time I used it.

When Easter rolls around all kinds of stuff gets resurrected. 

papa2005


I'm trying to figure out why this ancient thread (December 2005) was resurrected (or why it was started in the first place)...

Well ... it goes back to "like it or not, it is the standard" ... and unfortunately, the perception of many would-be-clients is that it is "the thing" and if you don't have it, then you're not really "pro" ... and often, no amount of logic (no pun intended), stats, samples, explanations, etc. will convince them otherwise ... the smartest thing digidesign did was put the word "pro" in the name of their product ... because it sticks that way in a lot of minds.

sigh .....

The bottom line is Pro tools is the industry standard. It was the first one to make it there so its gonna stay there. When people hear industry standard they assume its the best. Its also really hard to change a standards like that. In my eyes sonar looks better works better and sounds bettter. But who am I to tell the world that the standard should change. We all know that we need to switch use renewable energy sources and alt fuels in our cars and we have the resources to do it all but the standard is still petroleum... why? Because standards are just hard to change... thats my view on the subject like or hate it... thats what I have to say.