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  • [Posted Dec 2003] Why is Pro-tools the choice of most studio professionals not Sonar? (p.9)
2010/02/22 17:50:51
John
I hate to say this but that post is the very best advertisement for a native DAW like Sonar I have yet read.  I know that was not the intent of the poster but read it and have a laugh about how powerful a Digi001 is. Or that he is still a decade or so behind the rest of us. Its very funny. What it shows is how very little he knows about Sonar. I wont go into detail but his assumptions are from a decade ago.

BTW this has nothing what so ever to do with the fairly well rounded post that Ooblecaboodle posted much further back. 
2010/02/22 21:30:18
Michael Five
bottom line is this - by controlling the capacity of the system end-to-end, with dedicated hardware channels, PT can provide and guarantee performance at whatever level, i.e., number of tracks (channels) you pay for.  It's an in the box solution, in a way that no other DAW is.
2010/03/31 01:46:25
briggs007
This artist records all of their Albums in a small project studio with Sonar.

Smooth Friction

Its the Skills. Not the tools!
2010/03/31 02:18:26
glazfolk
chilldanny
  industry standard ... not necessarily the best.

Something I wish more people understood.



2010/03/31 03:27:26
Jim Roseberry
It gave the common man access to 24 tracks of rock solid analog style audio recording with awesome solidity and audio quality

 
Digi 001 and "awesome audio quality"?
Have you measured the noise-floor on that thing? 
You'd do *far* better with a $170 M-Audio Audiophile 192... running ProTools M-powered.
The rounding error alone working top-to-bottom at 16Bits is terrible by today's standards.
2010/03/31 05:41:33
Bristol_Jonesey
Is PTHD still running on 24 bit fixed? No float capability anywhere?

I swear I read that somewhere.
2010/03/31 13:35:48
devilcat78
As a graduate of Full Sail, and an audio professional who was trained in Pro Tools 6.4, I see both sides of the coin. Yes PT HD is expensive, but do you really want to replace an $80K tape machine with a $500-$600 firewire interface? Not in a commercial facility. You want the replacement to be as good or better, not necessarily the cheapest route.

When I upgraded our old system, 2 Alesis HD24's feeding a Yamaha 02R96, to MOTU PCI424 with 2408Mk3 interfaces, after some intense tweaking by Sonar 7 we had a very solid system, then came the upgrades.

You talk about marketing...I was completely content with the stability of OUR system on Sonar 7, 8 got rocky, and 8.5...well I haven't used it since a crash that led to sending 12 singers home and wasting time and money. S8.0.2 is working fine now and that is what i need, stability.

I wish there was more time between releases, I know CW doesn't, that's not their agenda.

I love Sonar and it's workflow, even being trained in Protools, which is why I don't understand what all the negativity so many have on either side, PICK ONE AND JUST MAKE MUSIC, who cares what you use, as long as the end result is good tunes and/or post prod that enhances the viewer's/listener's experience.

For perspective, i just finished work on a DVD release, and all of the editing was done on an iMac with an MBox mini, with PT LE 8 with the DV toolkit, and a Focusrite Contol24, and 3 FW drives daisy-chained(picture, SFX, audio). While editing I was running PT8, 2 search engines for FX, MS Word open for my cues sheet reference with internet enabled. A very stable system running 60+ tracks, from 1 drive(audio), that still got hung up and needed the occasional reboot(only happened once in 7 days).

All in all PT is great and Sonar is great, as long as they are working....


2010/03/31 14:32:24
WileE.
We just finished a project this past year that was a multi DAW process.  The tracks were recorded with a PT rig and the rough mix trax were sent home with us.  We recorded vocals with my cubase (now using sonar) system here.  Then I exported the wav files onto dvds and our mixer imported them back into PT for the final mix.  No problems whatsoever and no one would know a thing.  Use what you are comfortable with to make the best music.  The project will be as good as the weakest link....
2010/04/01 17:26:53
Jam Factory Records
[size=3 font="times new roman"]Wow, I’m surprised that none of you really answered the question. 
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[size=3 font="times new roman"]Protools has dedicated hardware, mix cards that handle all the processing for the pc or Mac.  Protools guarantees the amount of tracks and effects that can be used with their processors.  Need more tracks buy another mix card; it’s as easy as that. They don’t fumble around stressing the PC by adding a reverb to a track, actually the PC only runs the software.  All other tasks are offloaded to the card, that’s why they can run full blown resource eating effects.  The software is such a small part of the protools system they didn’t include midi recording until a few years ago, before then they were audio only.   They also started making a less expensive package that includes the software and maybe a soundcard but that is not a protools system at all.  That’s kids play to them for a real system be prepared to fork out at the least 5k to 7 k.  That will get you one mix card, (24 for tracks I’m sure) the software, and a bunch of effects.  The rest is up to you with the front end gear and monitoring.  That’s why the get jobs like Star Wars sound tracks and audio production.  They can handle the load…
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[size=3 font="times new roman"]Peace is with you…
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[size=3 font="times new roman"]That being said Cakewalk Rocks.  Wish they wouldn’t have merged with Roland…
2010/04/01 17:44:49
garrigus
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