• SONAR
  • Reached the End (p.3)
2015/09/14 19:18:44
BRuys
backwoods
 
I agree. Why do people expect legacy versions to be supported on the new OS? Where is the sense of perspective? If you would like to stick with an old version, good for you... but you may need to use an OS from the same era. 


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I work in IT and it is common to see clients holding onto old PCs running XP (even Windows 2000/Windows 9x) to keep a legacy application working.  Usually there were upgrade opportunities, but they were too tight to take them.
 
Eventually, the old PC dies and they are up the creek without a paddle.
 
I've seen this often and it's a problem of not recognising the need to keep technology current.  Funny, often those same people will upgrade their iPhone with every new model and not complain.
2015/09/14 20:16:10
RD9
boolee54
I began my journey with Cakewalk products around 12 years ago .... 
My difficulty lies in the path of planned obsolescence down which Cakewalk has led me and probably many others...
 
I feel that I have been led to a dead end by Cakewalk's marketing strategies and I also believe that I am not alone.  Throwing out affordable though soon-to-be-obsolete upgrades has undoubtedly been lucrative.  The new "Rolling Upgrade" system is a fun concept, but useless to anyone that is at my stage in the game since my product has been intentionally cast aside.  My main question:  Does a user of X2 Studio have an upgrade option, in Windows 10, without starting over from a new version, or is your strategy to offer only new products and abandon the affordable upgrade programs from past years?
 



I suspect that at some point many of us have felt what you are feeling.  I am not a huge fan of the disruptive rolling monthly upgrade approach.  However, there are other ways to view this situation as you have pointed out; here is the one that keeps me sane.  My view of this "reality" is as follows: Owning a computer and software requires an average yearly outlay ranging anywhere from $200 pa to as much as $5000 pa (or even higher for some).  This outlay covers off major items like computer hardware, major software purchases, routers and printers as well as minor purchases like ink, software updates and minor software purchases like VST instruments.  I try to ascertain what I am willing to spend on these items (e.g. $1000 pa) and then spend accordingly.  Some years I undershoot in order to purchase a large item the next year.
 
This is not too different to owning other gear which require a regular outlay of cash to maintain.  Examples include: Guitars; strings, upgraded pickups, Amps; new valves, Drums; sticks, drumheads, better cymbals, etc.
 
Of course the goal of every sales/marketing arm of the software and hardware companies (Cakewalk, Microsoft, Epson, Dell etc) is to pry as much money out of my pocket so we must be "ever vigilant".  Personally I am happy to pay $100 pa on a professional DAW in order for it to be kept updated and improved.   I do, however, feel that the present monthly upgrades are disruptive and give Sonar more of a "hobby" software feel than a professional one and have suggested quarterly upgrades with updates as required.
 
Cheers,
R
2015/09/14 20:18:58
Anderton
RD9
I do, however, feel that the present monthly upgrades are disruptive and give Sonar more of a "hobby" software feel than a professional one and have suggested quarterly upgrades with updates as required.
 



You can update monthly, quarterly, yearly, skip updates, roll back updates...whatever you want. It's about choice, not forcing anyone into any particular model.
2015/09/14 22:25:41
kitekrazy1
shawn@trustmedia.tv





Am I the only one that might want one of these?
 
I never use to uninstall my versions of Sonar.  At one time I had S7 to X3 on my W7 system.
2015/09/15 02:08:17
KPerry
Resonant Serpent
KPerry
Try running the latest version of Cubase on Windows 10 :-)  According to Steinberg there's a bug in Windows 10 that affects all audio software (yeah right).




Actually, this has been confirmed by Microsoft. Microsoft has also issued a hotfix, and it's being tested. 


So how come it hasn't affected SPlat?
2015/09/15 02:49:17
mudgel
Looks like a Ghetto Blaster with a little keyboard.
2015/09/15 06:16:07
Doktor Avalanche
KPerry
Resonant Serpent
KPerry
Try running the latest version of Cubase on Windows 10 :-)  According to Steinberg there's a bug in Windows 10 that affects all audio software (yeah right).




Actually, this has been confirmed by Microsoft. Microsoft has also issued a hotfix, and it's being tested. 


So how come it hasn't affected SPlat?


Well cubase could be calling some MS code that Sonar is not calling. E.g. vector based graphics.

Anybody have a link to this hotfix or MS statement? Googling comes up with nothing.
2015/09/15 08:52:25
Doktor Avalanche
Where's the hotfix?
I think blaming QuickTime and Edge browser is a little making a mountain over a molehill. Just don't use edge or quicktime! IF cubase is 100% reliable on it that's pretty crappy.

Issues with WDM may be understandable. If they are getting it chances are that Sonar WDM users would be effected as well though.

Can't comment on the 'timing issue'. Seems a little odd. It looks like their fixes seem to be curing the problem without MS intervention. It looks like they are crying wolf to me, but it's hard to say for sure.
2015/09/15 15:51:59
Pragi
kitekrazy1
shawn@trustmedia.tv





Am I the only one that might want one of these?
 


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