X1 corrupted several of my projects. I was able to revert to 8.5.3, and I no longer use X1 since its been a general hassle to me - not worth the trouble until it matures.

Mick Moreau

CJaysMusic

 I would like to continue to use Sonar

In the 6 years ive had my share. About 2 or 3, but if you back up your projects like your suppose to, you wont have any problems.
All programs can get corrupt. This is why you back up every session and every project. It shouldn't even be an issue. Just back up your stuff.
 
If you dont back up, your just asking for trouble, as eventually the hard drive will go or a virus will inhabit your pc or some 1's and 0's will get corrupt.
 

I agree 100% with this.  Two of the most sound pieces of computer program advice I have ever recieved (especially when dealing with creating something)
 
1) Select to effect
2) SAVE often.
 
Life has been good since ;)

That's all fine and dandy, but when the software is the problem, not the project, there's no safeguarding against that.

Backing up is not going to protect you from the Pro Channel flaking out, Snap To settings changing on their own, options in 'Preferences' not sticking, and I could go on and on ... all happening at random times.

I have gotten in to the habit of versioning my CWP files, but that still doesn't help when I can go back to every version and recreate a problem that leaves me sitting dead in the water. See my point?

Corrupt as in "flakey" but still loads?
Or currupt as in you can't load the project at all?
If it's the first, all you need to do is copy/past the track data into a new/fresh project
That's been something that (albeit rare) does happen from time to time.
I've not experienced the later...
 
I save incrementally (with a number after each save xxx_001.cwp, xxx_002.cwp, etc).
The project files themselves are relatively small.  It's the accompanying audio (Wav files) that are huge.
By saving incrementally, you can go back to different points in time... and you have numerous backups (always save a copy of the current state).
 

That's all fine and dandy, but when the software is the problem, not the project, there's no safeguarding against that.

Backing up is not going to protect you from the Pro Channel flaking out, Snap To settings changing on their own, options in 'Preferences' not sticking, and I could go on and on ... all happening at random times.

Yea, well a meteor can come crashing down and whipe your state off the map :)
 
I have not counted, but im guesiing I have over 800 projects and only 2 or 3 ever became corrupt in the past 6 years.

Hi Bub-

but that still doesn't help when I can go back to every version and recreate a problem that leaves me sitting dead in the water.

That sounds like a project CW would definitely like to look at. I'd send it to them with the recipe. They've asked for projects like that a bunch of times.

-Susan

Thank you all for your comments.

It seems that the only solution is to make multiple backups - I should have known better and should have been doing this all along.  I originally turned off the autosave because it was driving me nuts.  Why not have the autosave be more intelligent and have it wait until I have finished my action or stopped playback before kicking in?  That seems like an oversight to me.

I will be sure to make multiple backups from now on as I have learned not to trust that my projects will be safe.

I don't like autosave and never use it. I prefer to decide for myself when to save the project and when to back it up. But I am obsessive about backups, having long ago (almost 40 years as a computer nerd) embraced the idea that anything you store on magnetic media is temporary.

bitflipper


I don't like autosave and never use it. I prefer to decide for myself when to save the project and when to back it up. But I am obsessive about backups, having long ago (almost 40 years as a computer nerd) embraced the idea that anything you store on magnetic media is temporary.

I agree. I don't like it either. I don't want/like anything else going on while I'm recording. It's easy enough to just manually save after every prefect or near perfect take. I make multiple copies of the project as well... two on separate HD's and another get's burned to DVD.

For V-Studio users, there is a Save button right above and right of the transport on the console, so it is simple.

I also save periodically to 2 external USB drives, one of which is a thumb drive that goes everywhere I go.

Finally, I don't get excessive with versioning, but I do keep something like Rev 1 through Rev 6 or so as I develop a piece.

Bub

Mick Moreau

CJaysMusic

I would like to continue to use Sonar

In the 6 years ive had my share. About 2 or 3, but if you back up your projects like your suppose to, you wont have any problems.
All programs can get corrupt. This is why you back up every session and every project. It shouldn't even be an issue. Just back up your stuff.

If you dont back up, your just asking for trouble, as eventually the hard drive will go or a virus will inhabit your pc or some 1's and 0's will get corrupt.

I agree 100% with this.  Two of the most sound pieces of computer program advice I have ever recieved (especially when dealing with creating something)

1) Select to effect
2) SAVE often.

Life has been good since ;)

That's all fine and dandy, but when the software is the problem, not the project, there's no safeguarding against that.

Backing up is not going to protect you from the Pro Channel flaking out, Snap To settings changing on their own, options in 'Preferences' not sticking, and I could go on and on ... all happening at random times.

I have gotten in to the habit of versioning my CWP files, but that still doesn't help when I can go back to every version and recreate a problem that leaves me sitting dead in the water. See my point?

So much for saving and versioning ... working on something this morning, saved it, shut down, came back 2 hours later, all the work I had done on one guitar track was gone ... poof ... vanished. No wav in the audio folder, nodda, zip, zero, zilch. Completely gone.