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2015/05/25 17:20:58
frankjcc
Everything is excellent, including the pan centering function, I don't see why anyone cant get use to hold the button for about a 1/2sec and let go. The default encoder values should work for most scenario's. I love the way it pans, I can see for certain surgical eq cuts or something might need to be a bit finer in movement, but I wouldn't want my fine to always be that fine.  I'm happy the way it is.  
 
 
2015/05/25 20:40:18
gswitz
https://youtu.be/HSxogbi3thI
 
It seems to be working great. I was still able to cause a device drop out, but it was much harder to cause and recovery is quick.
 
I noted that shift+mute does not mute all tracks but instead solo's all tracks.
2015/05/25 22:01:37
SF_Green
Thanks for the video update, gswitz.  Looks like things are coming along very nicely.  I think I might have to give it a try now.
2015/05/26 07:29:41
azslow3
b223 b224 is uploaded.
 
Changes:
* shift+mute should be fixed
* even more conservative setting for display update... But the whole "strategy" is changed (b224), so it should not be perceived slower. This update rate is configurable now. In case you still see disconnects, please regenerate the preset with slower setting (bigger number) for "Update speed".
 
I still see no hint either original plug-in update display slower/faster/with the same speed. That can be the key to understand what is going on.
2015/05/26 20:59:51
gswitz
Alexey,
 
It was substantially harder to cause a drop-out than it has been, but I was still able to cause one (after 10 minutes or so of madly twiddling the nobs). The recovery is quick, so I'm more than happy with the results. It is definitely an Edge-Case now. I wouldn't spend more time on it, if I were you. I was twiddling Lo-Mid again when I caused the drop-out. That is usually the one I'm twiddling when it drops. I don't know why Low-Mid would be more likely to drop than the others, but I had worked Hi-Mid for a long time before I switched to Low-Mid and Low-Mid failed for me.
 
I can confirm that the Mute + Shift Mute are working properly.
 
The screen update on the AlphaTrack seems very good.
 
Really, this is terrific work. I considered not telling you that I got a drop-out, but I figured you'd rather the truth. It's difficult to get and I also didn't think it was worth a video. If you want me to do a Video, let me know.
 
I was as testing 224.
2015/05/27 02:32:46
azslow3
gswitz
Really, this is terrific work. I considered not telling you that I got a drop-out, but I figured you'd rather the truth. It's difficult to get and I also didn't think it was worth a video. If you want me to do a Video, let me know.

Thank you! I prefer the truth.
 
I understand you are also a bit tired turning knobs waiting for crash. I think our "team" need some pause, there will be no activity on my side next 2 weeks.
But at some point please test either you still have it after setting let say "Speed 14" during preset regeneration.
In case I add the "original" display updates during value changes (with graphics), that unavoidably increase the traffic. And so it make sense to eliminate the problem completely before, while at the moment it can be tolerated.
 
It can also happened that Display updates are not "crash trigger" on there own, in case "Speed 14" is still does not work. I will carefully check LED update timing then.
 
As I wrote, that is not urgent. I will put b224 into release and we rest for a while.
2015/05/27 05:45:41
subtlearts
Alexey, this is brilliant. I was away from the studio doing rehearsals and shows for a few days, and I come back to all these nice improvements! Crazy.
 
Very nice to have control of the update speed and encoder resolution. Since I don't seem to have any trouble with dropouts, I can set my update speed to the fastest (so far so good), but if it helps someone else to set it slower, they can do that. Perfect!
 
I find the default resolutions perfectly functional for my needs, I will try tweaking them a bit just to test the functionality but so far everything seems fine on this end.
 
The fader is working perfectly here, no fighting, no strange movement. The long press for Pan reset is a great solution and works a charm - I noticed you put it on the Send Pan as well, thanks for that!
 
The shift-mute (and solo and rec-enable) are working perfectly, exactly as in the Frontier plugin and a nice addition.
 
So I'm a happy camper, and my PayPal account has a little something in it so I'm finally able to hit the flowers button... say hi and thanks from us for your wife's patience...
2015/05/28 05:38:53
subtlearts
I have another little idea/request, hopefully simple (and maybe I can figure out how to do it myself)...
 
While 'normal' encoder resolution is great as a default for most purposes, it strikes me that it's a bit heavy-handed for EQ adjustment. Maybe, since the resolution persists for different modes, we could set the default resolution for te encoders in EQ mode to fine? Not a big deal, but I generally find myself adjusting one, then immediately going, that's way too much of a change, I need to go back to where it was and then switch to fine mode.
 
Also, the new HP and LP bands in the EQ are great, but I'm not sure the HP is the best 'default' band to start with - maybe that could also be set to start at one of the 'main' bands?
 
Neither is a big deal, I'm just thinking out loud based on my use of the plugin in a real (rather than testing) context...
 
EDIT... I was able to change the default encoder resolutions by switching the values for 'normal' and 'fine' in the logic tab of each encoder, which works fine. If anyone else cares, it's possible, if not, don't worry about it... also, while I wasn't able to change the default EQ band, I found a way to switch the default EQ 'page', so that on first click it goes to the 2nd page, with Band select and on/off. I find this more logical, rather than assuming I always want to start editing the HP, or whatever band was last selected. Click EQ once, make sure it's on the band I want to be editing, and that band is switched 'on', and then proceed to tweaking values...
if anyone's interested, it's on the Logic tab for the EQ button, last entry, change 'Page -> 2' to 'Page -> 1'
2015/05/28 17:36:12
azslow3
While correcting EQ is better done in fine mode, it will take many turns to set parameters initially. So I do not think any choice will work as the best for everyone.
 
Setting other default band or resolution is possible using special "initialization trick". Not yet in preset.
2015/05/28 17:56:36
subtlearts
For sure. I just find that I'm more likely to want to make relatively small adjustments, so the default resolution was not as useful to me and I inevitably had to change it to fine, so why not make that the default so it's already how I want it when I go to EQ mode? Works for me anyway.
 
Not important to change the default band, it was just a thought - actually HP is as good a choice as any, since filtering out low frequency on tracks where it's not important is a fairly common EQ task. But I do find that changing the default EQ page to '2' so I can select the band I want to work on right away, is a better approach for me.
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