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2015/09/03 16:11:08
ampfixer
I use a dropbox share for some business work and had no issues in 2 years. Any resources it uses are a drop in the bucket. I transfer audio, video, text and stills. The tool Alex mentions seems to be pretty good as well. I often move 300+ megs at a time and have used up to 5 gig for video.
 
If you have no trust at all, use sneaker net.
2015/09/03 16:50:27
Keni
It is not necessary to run any apps for Dropbox either. It works just fine in any browser...

That said, I'm looking into wetransfer as well as box... It never hurts to gave more storage/transfer capabilities...

As to file integrity? Transferring files uses checking methods. Big for bit it must remain the same or the transfer fails... The theory goes...

I know there's have been times that files get corrupted, so I make sure they are saved locally as well (both hard drive and optical copies)

But the sound never degrades as copying analog audio does...

Can anyone pits a link for box? I'm guessing it's not as simple as box.com?

Never mind... It is that simple! ;-)
2015/09/03 17:11:41
Doktor Avalanche
Keni
It is not necessary to run any apps for Dropbox either. It works just fine in any browser...


I've been forced into downloading dropbox many times before I can download a file sent to me. No simple link. Most of the time I reply back and tell them to do wetransfer because I will not install it.

Last time I installed it, it tried to upload the 'my documents' folder by default onto their servers. A tiny little checkbox I could have missed it. So sorry, not a fan.

I also like the idea with wetransfer that the files are deleted after a week or two
2015/09/03 17:28:36
Keni
Doktor Avalanche
Keni
It is not necessary to run any apps for Dropbox either. It works just fine in any browser...


I've been forced into downloading dropbox many times before I can download a file sent to me. No simple link. Most of the time I reply back and tell them to do wetransfer because I will not install it.

Last time I installed it, it tried to upload the 'my documents' folder by default onto their servers. A tiny little checkbox I could have missed it. So sorry, not a fan.

I also like the idea with wetransfer that the files are deleted after a week or two


I guess we each find what we prefer...

I can upload and download from Dropbox without installing an app... And if I send a link it arrives at the users email with a link for the file...

If they choose to login to their Dropbox account I believe they get the choice to stream audio or view pics instead of downloading...

I would not use wetransfer for many of my files as I often want it to remain online and available for far longer than a week or two... It takes a second to delete what I choose to... But it can be handy so I gave it a quick look. It seems that there are no online things for it at all unless you go to plus... That's fine...

I also just setup a box account and it too works without an app though I will install the app on my iPad during my free download time (satellite ISp) as it might be handy...

I use these services both for storage needs, transferring from iPad to PC (and back), and sharing files... I've not experienced any problems except for Gobbler which I never used though I built up a decent amount of available storage. Their' decision to discard all those earlier accounts and disrupt so many people definitely destroyed my trust with them for now...

I've used other online storage over the years... These all seem helpful...
2015/09/03 17:40:27
Beepster
I use Dropbox as my main mode of sending files and I prefer to receive them via Dropbox.
 
As Keni said (and I can confirm after probably a hundred or so transfers at this point) there is absolutely NO need to download and install the Dropbox "app". Nor does the recipient. They try to make you THINK that but it is not true.
 
I installed their uploader thingie when I first signed up and removed it immediately because it slowed down my system and just generally creeped me out (it seems to always be hunting for files to upload or doing other weird crap). I have wiped this system multiple times since I removed it so I know it is not just because it is working in the background.
 
All you need to do to upload is sign into your DP account, click the Upload button, use the Choose Files option (which opens a file explorer... usually to your desktop), select any files you want to share and click the Upload button (or whatever they have it labelled).
 
Wait for the upload to finish and then to send it you just hover over the file to expose the "Share" button. Click that and it will give you the option to email directly and will also generate a link that you can copy paste into a message manually. Of course I just copy the link and send it (I would never plug someone else's email into one of those things). I have never had any complaints about the links not working and I've dealt with many non dropbox users. It just downloads normally in their browser as a regular file.
 
I HAVE had issues sometimes when receiving links other than a wave or bundle or compressed file or whatever where sometimes the link will try to open in the dropbox preview window. Not sure what the senders have done to make that occur (and it isn't desired behavior for something like a project file) but most times I just get a downloable file that I can do what I want with.
 
As to the OP... seriously I would NOT use any automagic online syncing options/apps... especially on a DAW. Best bet would be to just back up and upload manually or get a good external drive with a hyper customizable backup/sync program then upload that manually to the online storage site.
 
Also remember if an online storage site goes tits up or their hardware fails and that was your only back up your are shiz outta luck just like a local storage failure. Multiple drives and online storage and whatever else you can conjure up (like discs for more important projects and or storing drives in another physical location like a friends house in case of fire, theft or whatever) is really the way to go for the ultra paranoid/vigilent. Not always practical though so you just gotta do risk assessment based on your own needs.
 
Those consumer auto online backup dealies though (or even the programs for local drives)... not great for a DAW. You don't want anything waking up, hunting around or generally futzing things up while you work. You could look for details on a "Suspend/Disable" type function so it only activates when you aren't working.
 
 
Cheers.
 
Edit: And of course I just jumped to a bunch of assumptions about what the OP was asking based on the thread. It's cool you can set it up as a save option for Sonar but I still personally wouldn't go that route (just because I don't want to take any resource hits and don't mind uploading manually). As for file corruption... I have no idea.
2015/09/03 18:01:09
webbs hill studio
"As Keni said (and I can confirm after probably a hundred or so transfers at this point) there is absolutely NO need to download and install the Dropbox "app". Nor does the recipient. They try to make you THINK that but it is not true."
 
good point-I found the app and all it`s hunting around and autosycnching pretty invasive as well but once you strip it back it`s flawless and reliable and seems to be the standard for submitting wavs for mastering etc.
will check out wet transfer though as file sharing/cloud is becoming increasingly efficient and hopefully the developers will be falling over themselves for market share so the upgrades shouldn`t be far away.
 
if you had told me 12 months ago that I could send via the web a 50gb file to someone else I would have been sceptical so who knows what Moore`s Law will bring by Xmas??
 
cheers   
 
2015/09/03 18:14:44
Beepster
webbs hill studio
"As Keni said (and I can confirm after probably a hundred or so transfers at this point) there is absolutely NO need to download and install the Dropbox "app". Nor does the recipient. They try to make you THINK that but it is not true."
 
good point-I found the app and all it`s hunting around and autosycnching pretty invasive as well but once you strip it back it`s flawless and reliable and seems to be the standard for submitting wavs for mastering etc.
will check out wet transfer though as file sharing/cloud is becoming increasingly efficient and hopefully the developers will be falling over themselves for market share so the upgrades shouldn`t be far away.
 
if you had told me 12 months ago that I could send via the web a 50gb file to someone else I would have been sceptical so who knows what Moore`s Law will bring by Xmas??
 
cheers   
 




It really is impressive. I was initially going to invest in some of those "indestructable" steel shelled flash drives to courier back and forth to my musical counterparts before I found out these sites existed. lulz
2015/09/03 18:18:28
BobF
From 50,000' I see this as a Great Thing.  Huge competition for file sharing means more storage for less $$ for all of us.
 
BTW, I hear that big, fat, sticky buds cause paranoia ... just sayin'
2015/09/03 18:21:47
Beepster
BobF
 
BTW, I hear that big, fat, sticky buds cause paranoia ... just sayin'




I gave up the icky ages ago... the paranoia remained.
 
Sometimes they really are out to get you.
 
;-)
2015/09/03 18:56:33
webbs hill studio
"just because you`re paranoid
doesn`t mean they ain`t watching you"
 
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