I was having Sonar 8.5 crashing whenever I tried to create a v-vocal clip. I followed Joe C's advice. I installed Sonar 7, (just plugins) copied the V-Vocal folder to Sonar 8.5 shared DXi folder and all is fine. It is not a big file. We should just make it available to people having trouble.

I am still running Studio X2a but my computer crashed and I lost V Vocal. It shows up in the Dxi file and I followed your relocation instructions, but no luck. Here is my question...When I open the V vocal file, it shows "skin" and the Cronus.dll files. When I open SKIN, it shows a data base file named "thumbs".  Does this sound right? Thanks in advance.