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  • Upcoming New Start Screen - thinking...[Good Answer!] (p.11)
2015/08/27 08:02:29
jih64
I think they done a pretty good job with the new start screen, and the notification thingy, very unobtrusive, and I think it's a good thing.
2015/08/27 08:54:47
mettelus
After demoing S1, the start screen comes across as a game of catch up to me.

Work flow enhancements to halve throughput time would be wonderful, and burying issues asap with workarounds is rather foolhardy.

Ever consider how many workarounds exist that the average customer has no clue about because they rarely (if ever) visit the forum? People with only a couple blocks of time each week for music are not planning to scour the forums (but some have to).
2015/08/27 09:12:39
Ryan Munnis [Cakewalk]
Kylotan
John T
Kylotan
It could have just been a link at the bottom of the existing start dialog that said, "New updates available! Click here to launch the Cakewalk Control Center" and that would cover 95% of it. "No need to check email or the web for your monthly updates anymore."... I don't, that's what CCC is for. Stick a link to that in the main app, flag it up when something new is available, done.


Well, there you're making an argument not against the feature, but as to how much time and effort should have been expended on it.

 
No, I was making an argument against justifying the whole new start dialog on the basis of 'users need notifications'.
 
I'm in favour of a new Start Dialog, if only it were to do anything useful for me. I made my suggestions in the past, so maybe they'll make it in at some point, who knows.


To be clear since you're sort of misconstruing what I was trying to express...
 
I wasn't justifying the entire thing based on wanting to just deliver updates; I was providing examples of how many of the improvements to the Start Screen are actually heavily requested. The reason I provided those examples is because people were claiming we aren't listening to feedback by using the Features & Ideas forum as an example. 
 
I'm personally not a huge fan of your idea since it sort of only solves one issue whereas what we're building solves many and can be expanded upon greatly in the future if desired. Also, now you have to deal with the thing getting in the way if you're not ready to update versus a notification in the Start Screen. If you don't want it to keep bugging you, now you have to persist what the user did, etc. I mean, it's not the worst idea, but fact of the matter is we'd have to do it with caution and there's almost just as much work involved just to deliver one bit of information, versus something we can continue to grow to make SONAR more accessible to both new and returning customers. Ultimately, that was what I was trying to express, that the entire experience from beginning to end is always worth considering, for users of all levels.
 
I just listed a particular example. Another example is Templates in general, which new customers often do not find the benefit of how useful they can be until much later in the experience of getting acclimated with SONAR. When I used to answer calls in tech support here, I could not tell you how many times I explained to people what project templates were and how they could be useful to their workflow. Again, we try to consider workflow improvements for all of our customers, not only the power users. whose features requests of course usually take a bit more time to implement.
 
2015/08/27 09:49:23
Anderton
Those who have been paying attention will have noticed that several of the new features are fairly open-ended and more like platforms for additional changes. Mix Recall, Vocal Sync, and the Drum Replacer have all had enhancements after their introductions (without having to wait for a yearly update) and I suspect the Start Screen is no different.
2015/08/27 10:00:44
ØSkald
How can i turn it of?
2015/08/27 10:01:25
Skyline_UK
I love the way the new start screen shows a thumbnail screen capture of my recent projects!
2015/08/27 10:04:56
Anderton
Jarsve
How can i turn it of?




Read the eZine. It describes two ways to bypass the Start Screen, one permanent and one as needed.
2015/08/27 14:01:40
Beepster
Jarsve
How can i turn it of?




There's an Edit > Preferences option apparently. As Craig said check out the Ezine. I haven't installed it yet but if you can't find it I'll dig it up for you. I think there is a post detailing it in the main Hopkinton release thread at the top of the forum too.
2015/08/27 14:54:13
Michael.b
Kylotan
To be honest the new start screen looks completely worthless to me, sorry. Absolutely nothing on there delivers value to me as a user, .....

I completely agree with you and with others here who question this.
When I first saw this thing I couldn't find out fast enough if it could be disabled and how.
How long will it be before this 'feature' starts marketing the company's products and other ads?
Ryan Munnis, in his long post, managed a shortish sentence mentioning it could be bypassed but conveniently omitted just a few more words on how! Anderton does give a link to the ezine which gives the information. For the benefit of all those who wish to disable it here is the information.
 
Edit > Preferences > File > Advanced     Uncheck "Show start Screen on Launch"
 
2015/08/27 15:34:46
Doktor Avalanche
Michael.b
I completely agree with you and with others here who question this.
When I first saw this thing I couldn't find out fast enough if it could be disabled and how.
How long will it be before this 'feature' starts marketing the company's products and other ads?
Ryan Munnis, in his long post, managed a shortish sentence mentioning it could be bypassed but conveniently omitted just a few more words on how! Anderton does give a link to the ezine which gives the information. For the benefit of all those who wish to disable it here is the information.
 
Edit > Preferences > File > Advanced     Uncheck "Show start Screen on Launch"

 
Everybody needs to read the eZine, pref before they install it I suggest. I appear to know this and I haven't even installed the latest patch.
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