g_randybrown
We were talking about the mod wheel, not the pitch bend.

OK.  Either way, I don't think there would be a case where my Finale-generated MIDI would turn off all 13 tracks at the same time.  Something else is broken here, I believe.  But I have set that option and will try that for awhile to see if it is more stable.  If the software were working right, then it seems to me either setting would be OK.

Do you put in a starting volume level? I use Aria, and I have to add a controller event #7, which I set to 80 or higher, at the very beginning. Then I use cc#11 to set volume changes on the fly. Sometimes I have to put the cc7 event in again at a later point to bring the base volume back up.

michael diemer
Do you put in a starting volume level? I use Aria, and I have to add a controller event #7, which I set to 80 or higher, at the very beginning. Then I use cc#11 to set volume changes on the fly. Sometimes I have to put the cc7 event in again at a later point to bring the base volume back up.

I have a little MIDI stub file that I insert in each Aria track before any of the Finale stuff.  I think I had put volume controls there in the past, but nowadays, that file just has a pan command to center (64).  I take the mono-left channel out of each of the Aria tracks, so it is important to pan to the center so all the channels will have the same weight on the left channel, then I can do any needed panning within Sonar downstream of that.
 
The Finale file is loaded with the #7 volume commands, so I don't think I need any of those.  But I was surprised to not find any #11 commands anywhere in the stream.  I wonder if #11 is getting set to zero on me sometimes.  Maybe I should put a #11 value in my stub file.
 

cparmerlee
I am a little confused about Kontakt.  I was thinking that might be an alternative that would run more reliably under Sonar.
 
See http://www.native-instruments.com/en/products/komplete/samplers/kontakt-5-player/kontakt-player-vs.-kontakt/
The free Kontakt 5 player seems to play only libraries that are purchased from NI whereas the purchased Kintakt 5 edition plays "unlicensed libraries".
 
But then there is a crossgrade price for the purchased Kontakt 5 edition for $249  See
http://www.native-instruments.com/en/products/komplete/samplers/kontakt-5-player/kontakt-player-vs.-kontakt/
 
It says "Only for registered users of qualifying 3rd party products that run in KONTAKT PLAYER. See list qualifying products. You won't be able to install and activate this version unless you own one of the required products listed above!"


But the Garritan JABB library is on that list of qualifying crossgrade products.
 
So it looks like one option would be to buy Kontakt 5 for $249 and run the Garritan libraries under that.  I am guessing that would run very reliably under Sonar.
 
I guess I will try running individual Aria instances to see if that works any better, but that seems really messy when dealing with a large ensemble.

Those files will mot run under Kontakt but Kontakt comes with an orchestra which would be useful.
 

Garritan J&BB runs fine on my system.  When using Aria I select J&BB and then the standard and not notation.  Which one are you using?  I also select either my keyboard or Akai USB wind controller with both set to channel one.  If you have yours set to ohmi maybe when you use your mod wheel (CC1) it turns off your volume.
 
There was an earlier version of J&BB that was Kontakt powered.  Google/bing and you may find an old copy for sale.  However I would try to figure out what is happening with your system because if it works for me and others it should work for you. 

MarioD
Garritan J&BB runs fine on my system.  When using Aria I select J&BB and then the standard and not notation.  Which one are you using?

I have been using "notation" usually.  I will try standard instruments.
 

MarioD
I also select either my keyboard or Akai USB wind controller with both set to channel one.  If you have yours set to ohni maybe when you use your mod wheel (CC1) it turns off your volume.

Actually I am only using MIDI generated by Finale.  I am not playing into the synth.  I have each of the cnalles assigned explicitly.
 
 

MarioD
There was an earlier version of J&BB that was Kontakt powered.

I do have that original Garritan version that ran with Kintakt.  I upgraded to the JABB3 that uses Aria.  I'd rather not try to have both running on my system, so I will try these other ideas first.
 
Thanks.

although it may  be something else this does appear to be the classic mod wheel set to zero silencing aria inside sonar. did you try unchecking the zero controllers when play stops, amd/or move the mod wheel to see if sound comes back. the kontakt version will also result in silence with mod wheel set to zero in sonar.
 
according to finale documentation it appears that you can use the mixer in finale to control volume of the aria synth instead of the mod wheel.

rabeach
although it may  be something else this does appear to be the classic mod wheel set to zero silencing aria inside sonar. did you try unchecking the zero controllers when play stops, amd/or move the mod wheel to see if sound comes back. the kontakt version will also result in silence with mod wheel set to zero in sonar.

I did not do anything with a mod wheel.  The MIDI was already in the file, imported from Finale and it didn't have any mod wheel commands in it.  I do have a MIDI synth, so I guess I could trigger a signal and get it to Aria.  My synth has 2 wheels, but they aren't marked.  One is spring-loaded to return to center and that does a pitch bend.  The other is not spring loaded and seems to control tremolo on the patches I listened to.  Is that the wheel you are talking about?
 
Couldn't I just insert a mod wheel command at the beginning of my MIDI file?
 
But again, I am confused because Aria will play 16 different sounds on the different channels and they all go away at the same time.  Wouldn't the mod wheel pertain only to one channel at a time?
 
I think I have neglected to ask the most basic question here.  For those that are using Aria successfully with Sonar, what release are you running?
 
For me, the player is 1.620 and I could not find any update later than that.
The engine, however, is 1.830, which I believe is the most current, dated 8/24/15.
Are these the versions that you use?

You can indeed submit a mod wheel command at the beginning of the track. As I said before, put in a cc7 event, set it to at least 80, and you will have a mod wheel command for that track. The base volume will remain at that level, so you won't get a drop in volume. At least you shouldn't. but if you do, put it in again at that point. Use cc11 for fine adjustments.

I don't have aria I still use the kontakt player but doesn't the aria player have a mod wheel next to the virtual keyboard on the vsti itself.