• SONAR
  • Major issue with AD 2 and CAL split note to tracks... (p.3)
2015/08/17 10:41:12
Sidroe
BTW, my experience has been with Superior Drummer! Not AD2. This would point to it not just being related to AD2! I have AD2 but prefer SD2. The problem seems consistent to Sonar.
2015/08/17 12:54:43
Danny Danzi
joden
oops yeah that's a typo...was always split note to track. I think you have maybe hit upon it Danny...you are actually recording in MIDI data...and when I tested with a piano track (in a new project) SNTT worked fine. So methinks it might actually be something to do with the pasting of midi clips as you suggested. Thing I did was bounce the clips ..so maybe that did something?? I might try it on a single midi loop (8 bars) prior to bouncing and see what happens.
 
Thanks much for trying to see if you could repeat it there and your other input!
 
Cheers



Ah you're quite welcome....I just wish I could help.
 
Ok, whew...glad that was a typo! Hahaha! I may have figured something else out that you can try if you want to, joden. I'm also wondering if the SNTT CAL itself may be the culprit. The reason I say that, when I mentioned I was a SNTT prostitute, I really wasn't kidding. LOL! I literally created my own SNTT CAL files due to a very strange drum kit. I have V Drums pads all over the place and assigned toms where they weren't supposed to be. A bud of mine knew how to create custom CAL files so I told him what I would like to see because the whole note value thing was annoying to me. I wanted to look at a midi track and at a glance, know what it was.
 
That said, in all my years of using that custom SNTT file, I have never crashed after using it and pressing play. This brings me to another hypothesis....
 
My left hand is in a just about permanent, ctrl+s form. LOL! Every major change I make in a project gets a save. It was my belief (though this is a crap statement today and not something I believe anymore) that Sonar would crash after a certain amount of time and saving would restart that "crash clock". The more I saved my projects, the less they would crash. Today (touches wood and thanks God) I don't save as often (which is stupid of me) because Sonar doesn't crash like it once did and my work pc's are beasts. Though that probably doesn't do you any good and I'm just talking out my butt lol....I'd be willing to send the custom CAL file to you if you wanted it.
 
Now MY drum midi note numbers and yours will most likely be different. So when it splits the notes to tracks and names them, what you hear may not be what you see. I've heard others who have had problems with the stock CAL files, but I never had an issue with this custom one my friend made me. As my drum pads increased, I opened up the stock file and looked at the one he made me.....I saw how he made it and made my own from there. I can either give you the original he made for me or the last one I created myself. Neither has ever given me a crash.
 
So though they may not work for you and the drums you have, you can at least see if maybe it's the CAL file itself and how it may be processing? I really don't know. I'm horrible when it comes to deep trouble shooting Sonar. I either figure out my own issues by accident or I call them on the phone. They have helped me fix my issues the 3 times I have called tech support.
 
The issue we may have here is scook mentioned that CAL files are no longer under development. That guy knows his stuff and has helped me a billion times. LOL! That said, I would *think* that if the bakers are going to include CAL files in Sonar that they should work right. I would definitely try and contact someone. You, Sid and Tom have legitimate gripes in my opinion. If something IS going on, I would think the bakers would be curious to take a look at it in THIS program. They've put a lot of time into Plat from what I've seen. It's been the most stable version of Sonar that I have ever used. I would definitely attempt to bring this to someone's attention that IS someone. It won't hurt to try.
 
In the meantime, if you want to try that CAL file I have for drums, you are welcome to it. Send me a message and I'll send it to you. :)
 
-Danny
2015/08/17 13:47:07
joden
Thanks Danny have done just that.
 
@Sidroe and Tom  thanks for your input confirming something is going on!
2015/08/17 13:54:19
Danny Danzi
Got your message and emailed you the files. :)
 
-Danny
2015/08/17 14:20:02
joden
Danny I think it is definitely something to do with AD2 and the way it is set up. The message I get is :
The following Track(s) can not be routed to : Kick Would you like to continue yes/no.
This message gets repeated with each drum instrument being extracted.
This was the same when using either of the CAL versions you supplied. It repeated this error box for each drum instrument. If I selected okay for all, it still went ahead and actually split the notes out, but again at PLAY Sonar crashed again.
2015/08/17 14:25:37
S.L.I.P.
Doesn't matter if you use simple tack or midi, and audio, Sonar Platinum will crash, when you hit play. I posted this same thing yesterday, using a variety of drum vsts. Once you hit play, after CAL split the notes to tracks, CRASH. This same procedure works with Sonar X3 producer without a problem.
2015/08/17 14:28:31
Danny Danzi
S.L.I.P.
Doesn't matter if you use simple tack or midi, and audio, Sonar Platinum will crash, when you hit play. I posted this same thing yesterday, using a variety of drum vsts. Once you hit play, after CAL split the notes to tracks, CRASH. This same procedure works with Sonar X3 producer without a problem.




I wonder why it's not crashing for me, SLIP? I'm trying everything over here. Are you guys on Win 8 or 10? I'm wondering if that has anything to do with it? I'm on Win 7 and am trying anything and everything.....I can't make this crash at all. So weird!
 
-Danny
2015/08/17 14:54:14
joden
W10 here Danny. Although I am not sure how that would affect it tbh??
2015/08/17 15:15:50
S.L.I.P.
W10 for me as well!
2015/08/18 09:29:30
Lord Tim
Just tried it then on my Win7 machine and yes - a lockup for a couple of seconds when I hit play after doing the split and then a crash. Very interesting. I wonder if the CAL script is doing something funky with port assignments or something? Time to have a look-see...!
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