phlosten
Remember, if the price is free, YOU are the product. :)

Exactly.  This is very much a generational thing.  My parents were kids during the Great Depression and the spent their entire lives being ultra frugal.  Some of us who grew up in the 60s have a distaste for authority, whether it is big government or big business.  Millennials seem to have no concerns about privacy, and don't mind being marketed to 24x7x360 degrees.


I couldn't survive in the Internet world if I didn't have an ad blocker.

WDI
Not sure why they would try to make money off solitaire though. Seems kinda of silly and would be a freebe. But ya, Microsoft has to make money somehow if they are not going to sell the operating system.

It's a brilliantly (evil laugh) scheme.  It's not a big thing (solitaire) so it lets them creep into the pay to play arena, get people used to it, maybe it's super cheap.  So it's basically a trial balloon to see how far they can and will eventually push things.
 
I can *definitely* see a desire to eventually have a "free" OS - but ALL apps must be bought thru MS Store (for YOUR protection etc and convenience of course).   Once that happens, THEN they can push whatever price and subscription model the public will accept w/o loosing market share to OS's like LINUX etc.
 
It's all a balance sheet.  At the best case it provides a decent option at a reasonable price.  At the worst it becomes: deliver the worse service at the highest price the customer will pay.
 
 
 
 
 

Doktor Avalanche
 If solitaire is the only example we can use of M$ switching the tables we better find some other examples.

 
OK I've found a better example.
Visual Studio 2015, the tool that develops Sonar and other M$ applications is now subscription only. Or you can rent it. So they are turning into the Adobe subscription model. Same with MS Office I guess...
 
I'm screwed as I have a standalone Visual Studio 2013 Pro license which seems to get me nowhere....
It wasn't that long ago you would get a free copy if you attended the right release shows.
 
The OS I'm sure will remain "free", probably even after a year I suspect, they want people to buy/rent their other applications, as everything else. Nobody will buy windows standalone any more anyway as it will come included with new OEM machines in future.

Well as I wrote in another thread you CAN turn it off and on:
 
Open a CMD Prompt (admin) quick way is windows key+X then select  Command Prompt (admin) when it opens at the prompt type:  net stop wuauserv  it will then run and report the service was stopped successfully. Sometimes it MIGHT take a couple of goes. To restart just replace the word stop with start.

I really don't think to run your DAW in windows 7 8 or 10 you would need any update besides service  pack 1, after that I think you could turn updates of...imho. -Shawn

shawn@trustmedia.tv
I really don't think to run your DAW in windows 7 8 or 10 you would need any update besides service  pack 1, after that I think you could turn updates of...imho. -Shawn

There will prob be no service packs. Windows 10 is the last version of Windows and will be under continuous development like sonar. If you turn it off than new software that takes advantage of new features won't work. Also consider all software has big fixes Inc OS's, if it's under continuous development that means continuous bug fixes. Also note new software is developed under the latest libraries. Finally security issues pop up all the time.

M$ knows machines that don't get updates installed are a liability. So really not a good idea.

Just make sure you run backups.

Maybe do updates once or twice a year? :) -S

Ok, so group policy editor (or removing internet cable) seems to be the obvious solution. Thank you for that Doktor.

shawn@trustmedia.tv
Maybe do updates once or twice a year? :) -S

Unless you have the enterprise version of Windows, I don't think this is an option.  I think the only option you have is to elect deferred updates.  In that case, Microsoft will select some non-essential updates and defer them by a couple of months, but they will continue to put the critical ones on your computer immediately.  As I understand it, the consumer versions of Windows 10 (i.e. the free version) provides no option to decline updates.

Ok, so pull the plug if you have the home version, I'm ok with that. I have often pulled out the modem cable so there was no chance of any internet app accidentally interrupting a critical recording session.
I have also found the option that states if you have other Windows products, then Windows may restart your computer before applying these updates. There doesn't seem to be an option to defer this and I do have Office 365. I'm assuming that this would probably be the culprit if anything.
I am liking Windows10, it seems a bit zippier on my laptop and after a few workflow changes I'm starting to see the benefits of the upgrade from Windows7. I guess I'll just have to keep an eye on a few processes and the performance monitor, to make sure I'm not going backwards in respect to computing power. Being on a 32bit OS requires a bit more thought with regards to memory usage.