Hi there,
 
I have been happy with Sonar 6 for a long-time, recently bit the bullet and upgraded to X3.
Wow. X3 is a different animal. It doesn't feel like Sonar anymore, it is a completely different DAW. Feels like I am trying to adapt to a new DAW. Well, I'll push through, I am sure It'll get better...
 
I have a couple of simple tasks that I can't seem to complete with success, if you guys can help me overcome the difficulties that would greatly appreciated.
 
1. Bounce to Clip: I made a comp in a track that spans over several take lanes. It plays back the way I want it. But when I bounce it to clip starting points of each audio clip moves. I wouldn't say quantized, but it is something like that. I turned off snap , but result still the same. Same thing happens even if I select the comp only and export. In Sonar 6, bounce to clip creates an identical audio. It is so identical, when I play it back with the original with phase inverted, they'd cancel each other out.
What's happening here? Oh, I stretched some of the audio clips in the comp about 120%. 
 
2. Take Lanes: Is there way to set them up and use them like layers in Sonar 6? Take Lanes decides so much on my behalf, I don't like that.
 
Thanks,
 
Nick.
 
 

it is a big change, but you can get various videos to speed things up , karl does some for SWA (?) and there is the groove3 ones Eli did. yes both cost, but they will also save you a lot of time.
 

NeckHumbucker
 
2. Take Lanes: Is there way to set them up and use them like layers in Sonar 6? Take Lanes decides so much on my behalf, I don't like that.
 

I'd like to find that one also. Take lanes are really annoying to me compared to layers.

Particularly for midi work. I like take lanes okay for audio though.
 
Regards,
Dan
 

Did you bounce your stretched clips first? Before bouncing them all to one? That might be why they are out of sync.
 
Regarding going from 6 to x3.
I went from 5.2 to X1, then immediately X2 and then didn't get anywhere, but more and more frustrated! LOL
I ended up at X3  and now I'm at Platinum and still "catching up". The biggest help to me, getting over being so lost(!), was the little CW Quickstart booklet and even more so the Quickstart card! I started looking at it a lot and then felt way less "dis-empowered". There are so many options now that CW has grouped them and you have to know where to "reach" for "what". That is the biggest step; understanding how the tools are grouped, now.
 
   I bought a bunch of CW, SWA, and Craig Anderton videos. Like Fog, I find Groove 3 has really been useful! I got a free CW deal and then started a monthly subscription, which was so rewarding that I jumped on their $99/year All Access Pass for the past 2 years. They have videos on almost everything (other vendors) I own and now they even have lessons for various instruments. Cool!
     AND... I still have to have a copy of Scott Garrigus' Sonar Power book handy. That has been my main path of learning since he started writing them!
Michael

NeckHumbucker
2. Take Lanes: Is there way to set them up and use them like layers in Sonar 6? Take Lanes decides so much on my behalf, I don't like that.

You may find this article helpful. Take Lanes lose some of the functionality of layers, but the tradeoff is comping that's off the hook wonderful (once you figure it out, which took me a few tries - the tutorial on speed comping is what did it for me).
 
And yes, the X-Series is a different DAW, so sorry to say there is a learning curve. However, the time you lose climbing that curve now will be more than compensated for in the future once you become familiar with the program. Pre-X-series versions feel quirky and inefficient once you get comfortable with X-series versions.

pentimentosound
     AND... I still have to have a copy of Scott Garrigus' Sonar Power book handy. That has been my main path of learning since he started writing them!
Michael

Thanks for the mention, Michael! I appreciate it and glad to hear my books have helped so much.
 
Scott

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They have indeed, Scott! I keep it handy and look up questions I see here or on your DigiFreq forum to spread out my thinking. There are always alternative paths and whatever I don't use, might still lead me somewhere, new. I know I have habits/preferences and there are certainly areas I may never use in Sonar, but I like knowing there are other options and how they work. It gives me  "to be explored"  places.
Michael

Thank you all for tips, advise and encouragement. I am watching/reading as many tutorials as I can. But can't stop thinking I might as well migrate to another DAW. I like Studio One. 
 
When I first started with Sonar, I fit me like a glove, when I needed something I'd right-click and bamm it was there, it was a lot more intuitive than other DAWs I tried at the time such as Cubase. But I feel it lost its intuition for me.
Hopefully I'll regain my confidence soon. 
 
Michael, I'll try bouncing stretched clips first. Is there a global audio quantize setting?
Anderton: That's the first article I read. Helped a little. but new take lane requires a chance in work style
 
Another question I have: in Sonar 6 if snap is set to 1 measure, and if I copy a clip that, say, starts on 1:01:480, and paste it somewhere else it'd start on X:01:480. But in X3, it snaps to 1st beat to start X:01:000
What am I missing?
 
As for take lane, my first impressions are terrible. It decides so much on my behalf, that's how I feel. When I select a clip and move it with arrow keys, it deletes everything on its way. It is so annoying. Because moving with arrow keys has advantages over mouse as it obeys to snap setting. 
 
I think I'll use track folders for now to get the work done. 

Over-zealous snap/quantize is another feature of X series that bothers me.  Just like you: I want a quantize sometimes, but I also want to cut a specific range and paste at a specific point.   Instead of "paste", using "paste special" works better for most purposes.  But you have to mouse up to the menu, or set and remember a new key command to get that option by default.