SuperG
Dante, from what I can tell from it's design is a fairly *good* compromise on an ethernet audio protocol. It's not routable, but for live needs I can't see where it would need to. The biggest hurdle for audio is coexisting with IT type traffic - so if it can be done here without too much impact, so much the better.

There are other solutions, AVB (over the top, IMHO), and AES50 (non-ethernet)... AES50 (Behringer/Midas) looks interesting, it uses ethernet media, but the adapters are custom.
 

I wouldn't think you'd ever try to implement this on an existing ethernet with email traffic, etc. already going on. You'd always use custom adapters and the network would be ad hoc -- set up for audio.

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yummay
Some people talked here that the latency is not that good on DANTE... Well, latency on USB and firewire is "as easily" just as bad I guess. Anyway I feel it is always best to use an hardware mixer for my musicians, to avoid latency issues. So, I'll still use the 01v with this approach in mind (using direct outs that SONAR will capture). In 2015, latency issues should be a thing of the past. This hardware / software manufacturer's problem should not be OURS anymore. So, I'll do my best to ignore and bypass it.

Dante features/convenience are fantastic.
Where Dante falls flat is if you need low round-trip latency.
The lowest round-trip latency that you'll achieve is ~10ms
If you want the ability to effectively play/monitor in realtime (thru software based EFX/processing), you need round-trip latency at about half that amount.

I was wondering about the latency.  Hard to find figures on it.  Jim, is that 10ms just the software by Audinate's software or the Focusrite hardware.  If that is the case it suddenly becomes $1000.  What I do like is the Focusrite digital in/out unit and the fact that Burl is going to DANTE - two big pluses.
 
I see DANTE as a good solution to a house solution where you need to switch audio around the building.
 
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Larry Jones

SuperG
Dante, from what I can tell from it's design is a fairly *good* compromise on an ethernet audio protocol. It's not routable, but for live needs I can't see where it would need to. The biggest hurdle for audio is coexisting with IT type traffic - so if it can be done here without too much impact, so much the better.

There are other solutions, AVB (over the top, IMHO), and AES50 (non-ethernet)... AES50 (Behringer/Midas) looks interesting, it uses ethernet media, but the adapters are custom.
 

I wouldn't think you'd ever try to implement this on an existing ethernet with email traffic, etc. already going on. You'd always use custom adapters and the network would be ad hoc -- set up for audio.

That's the point. It's just that expectations seem to want a bit more - i.e. using IT ethernet adapters, sticking a WIFI access point adapter on it so you can control via a tablet, etc. I agree though, a dedicated ethernet plant, or dedicated digital whatever transfer media in use is the way to go. All of which rub a bit of the the shine off of AVB and Dante....

In the future, your CPU and the software you run on it can be in the cloud. All you really need is an audio and video interface along with your clicks and key-strokes. Since bandwidth is only going to increase (we're getting Google Fiber here in Nashville!!), the requirements of audio and video will only need to go as far as your eyes and ears can detect. Once bandwidth outpaces that, it's all rudimentary.
 
20 years ago, I had an idea that until only recently has become a reality. A Digital snake! Yep, all I needed were the A/D and D/A converters to do it the rest was easy, since the bandwidth needed was fixed, and the distance for the fiber was 1500 feet! I worked for a telecomm firm that was heating up the market on fiber technologies in multiplexing, so, if we could do this for data, it wasn't really that difficult to make it happen in the Live sound arena. Now we have MADI and such services, many of which I personally believe took a LOOOONG time to evolve. Technology is swift in some ways, and painfully slow in others.

I've realized today that AVB is more of the "open standard" type than I first tought of... (Audinate's solution is proprietary... they sell licenses...) Somehow until now, I've understood it the other way around... my bad...
 
AVB might be a little overkill / expensive, but just because of the shift of perception I've had today I have become interested again in MOTU'S new line of avb interfaces...