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2015/08/04 17:08:40
Anderton
ampfixer
What/where is this famous AdrenaLinn loop library you keep talking about?



It's no longer available, it came out well over 10 years ago. When M-Audio got out of the library business I asked why, I made a bunch of $$ off AdrenaLinn Guitars. An M-Audio representative said if all the libraries had sold as well, they wouldn't have gotten out of the business.  However, I did have a rights reversion clause and now own all the rights...hmmm...
 
Anyway, Roger Linn loved the library (I got his permission to use the word AdrenaLinn) so he put a mention on his site, along with the "hot" music demo and the "cool" music demo, which thanks to the miracle of the Interwebz are still accessible. (FWIW all the sounds are from the library except the drums.)
2015/08/04 17:15:10
eph221
Just wanted to share with everyone the good news that EAST WEST has made their entire collection available for the price of $29.99.  Amazing deal for such high quality samples.  As for the other sample companies..I feel your pain.
2015/08/04 17:23:42
Bristol_Jonesey
It's a subscription deal.
 
You pay 29.99 per MONTH, at least that's how I'm reading it
2015/08/04 18:59:42
PilotGav
Bristol_Jonesey
It's a subscription deal.
 
You pay 29.99 per MONTH, at least that's how I'm reading it




Still a fantastic offer, making instruments available I never would have had before! Can't wait to see how NI reacts.
2015/08/04 19:32:39
Anderton
It's not like Cakewalk, though, where you get to keep what you buy; it's a rental. However, you can still buy individual libraries and own them, so you're not forced into a rental situation (unlike, ahem, some companies). Still, $360 a year for unlimited access to EW sounds will be worth it for many people. They do great work. 
2015/08/04 22:44:32
eph221
Of course it's per month,   its such a great deal I thought you'd know.  I can finally have a choral sample library, monstrous  trance sounds, orchestral sounds , storm drums everything!  Thus my comment about other companies,  this is going to put some out of business.
2015/08/04 23:19:22
Anderton
eph221
Of course it's per month,   its such a great deal I thought you'd know.



Well Composer Cloud was introduced three months ago, so it's not exactly "hot off the presses" news...that's perhaps why the comment about it in the middle of a thread on how people use loops in today's music seemed kind of odd.
 
But to get back to loops...Sound on Sound published a pretty lengthy article I wrote about creating loops:
 
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/mar15/articles/flexible-loops.htm
 
Those getting nito loops might also find the following articles helpful:
 
http://www.harmonycentral.com/articles/how-to-create-your-own-loops-from-an-audio-file
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep11/articles/sonar-tech-0911.htm
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/mar15/articles/sonar-workshop-0315.htm
http://www.keyboardmag.com/compose---arrange/1329/tips-and-tricks-for-loops-and-beats/29601
 
2015/08/04 23:22:12
ampfixer
Thanks for all the links Craig.
2015/08/04 23:32:16
Anderton
ampfixer
Thanks for all the links Craig.



Always glad to help. After seeing discussions in these forums for the past several years, I've really thought I should write a book about loops - how they're used, problems, making your own, etc.
 
For example, at a seminar once I slowed down an acidized file from a commercial library, and it sounded dreadful. I showed how you could use SONAR to edit the transients and have it sound 1000X better. Someone in the audience was blown away - "I always thought that loops just sounded bad. I had no idea you could edit them!" I suspect he didn't know that a lot of loop libraries have really sloppy editing, whether REX or Acidized files. Sony does a great job with their acidized libraries but not all companies are as conscientious.
 
Loops have a lot of complexities to them, and I think more people would probably use loops if they could get better results out of them and/or knew how to adapt them better to the task at hand. 
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