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  • The Song Remains the Same - NOT. (p.6)
2015/08/04 23:51:45
eph221
No, sorry the it is real news.  The big kahuna, the entire catalogue used to be $50 per month.  Now it's $29.99.  Sorry for the confusion and again sorry to their competitors
2015/08/05 01:01:41
Anderton
eph221
No, sorry the it is real news.  The big kahuna, the entire catalogue used to be $50 per month.  Now it's $29.99.  Sorry for the confusion and again sorry to their competitors



Okay, I see...the $29.95 used to be for seven collections and some extras. Now it's for all their samples. Still nt sure what this has to do with musical applications of loops, though.
 
2015/08/05 03:40:35
Bristol_Jonesey
Anderton
eph221
No, sorry the it is real news.  The big kahuna, the entire catalogue used to be $50 per month.  Now it's $29.99.  Sorry for the confusion and again sorry to their competitors



Okay, I see...the $29.95 used to be for seven collections and some extras. Now it's for all their samples. Still nt sure what this has to do with musical applications of loops, though.
 


As you say Craig, it's a pure rental system.
 
The very moment you miss a months payment, all of the instruments will cease to work.
 
You are locked in until hell freezes over.
2015/08/05 09:01:14
PilotGav
Bristol_Jonesey
Anderton
eph221
No, sorry the it is real news.  The big kahuna, the entire catalogue used to be $50 per month.  Now it's $29.99.  Sorry for the confusion and again sorry to their competitors



Okay, I see...the $29.95 used to be for seven collections and some extras. Now it's for all their samples. Still nt sure what this has to do with musical applications of loops, though.
 


The very moment you miss a months payment, all of the instruments will cease to work.
You are locked in until hell freezes over.



True! Rendering tracks becomes very important.
 
2015/08/05 09:31:58
eph221
It's not for everyone, haha.  sorry professor craig...carry on.
2015/08/05 13:18:43
Anderton
Actually I think this is an interesting enough topic I'm going to start a thread in my Harmony Central forum about subscription libraries in general. I'm intrigued that the price dropped by 40% after only three months...thanks for the inspiration.
2015/08/05 14:00:44
javahut
To me loops, presets, midi... it's just as valid as collaborating with other people and their ideas. So a particular drum loop isn't exactly what you want. But usually, if the drummer is in the room with you, it's still not gonna be exactly what you had envisioned, but a combination of what you liked, with the player's own style having a strong influence on the outcome. But if you find it cool, and you find a way to modify what you're playing to sound cool with it (collaboration), you might end up with something better than the sum of the parts (hopefully).
 
It's all blurred the lines between musician, performer, producer, engineer, etc. After all... a lot of the loops ARE real people "moving air". You just have the opportunity to play with what are some of the best in their field, whether they be musicians or programmers or sound designers. And then you have the option to mold and modify it even further depending on your own skills... as an instrumentalist, as a collaborator, as a producer, an editor, an engineer.
 
To me only the final product matters as a whole piece of recorded art, as a recording that I want to listen to. It's all the same, only different, with more access to sounds, sound designers, and players you may have never had a chance to collaborate with when doing things the "old" way. But the "old" way is just as valid, too. As long as the end justifies the means to you... it's all good. And maybe every once in a while, it turns into something great!
2015/08/05 14:17:30
Anderton
Another post with "high wisdom quotient"...
 
As I say many times at seminars, all the matters is the emotional impact on the listener, who doesn't care what you did in order to create that emotional impact. Drummers think the drum loops on my songs are a real drummer playing...because they are loops of a real drummer playing. But I don't think Chris Hughes or Greg Morrow would have showed up at my house with a drum kit at 2 AM saying "Hey, I see you're working on a song, need me to play drums?"
2015/08/05 15:38:13
bapu
Since going fully digital in my humble space I've had two drummers in my room. One live and one Edrummer. Even though I have an e-kit I don't use it that much since I have every XLN midi pack, the entire Groove Monkee MIDI library, a hefty bunch of Slate MIDI grooves, some Platinum Samples MIDI grooves, the entire Toontrack MIDI libs (sans the Independent SDX), all the BFD2/3 included grooves and some Looploft MIDI loops. I tend to use MIDI for drums as I can typically find what I need or, as javahut said, adapt accordingly.
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