joden
jeez Sir Les - why on earth did you think that would be useful? Been using and manipulating MIDI for 25 years...the thread is about how to strip down Motif arps which are all played on a single MIDI channel (four parts at once) into separate tracks without a mountina of work to determine what note belongs to what instrument, and pitch and velocity mean nothing as all the tracks have verying pitches and velocities.
 
Simple answer is it cannot be done simply so the best solution is to just record it to the onboard sequencer and then save that as a midi file and then try to work on that...MAYBE master mode (or song mode) might allow further identification, I don't know at this stage.

Not sure, but I assumed if all the instruments are on one track...then something might be having to do with this link I posted.
 
I do not have issues with a Mox8f...so I just thought of converting it to type ...x
 
As this is something Learnt way back in time...of a sort...in likeness.
 
Sorry if it is of no use....move on, and forget it....I did not say much in that posting...so...I did not say anything of it being...or not being..only what I know could be...is something tied to it in that mode toward it being type o or 1....Just think about it////....no...yes...did it help?...is it setting one can change in that mode this OP is using...perhaps.......and if saving the file for import it stays as is one track with all instruments in it....then what type is it......?....Perhaps you are right.....I should just keep my input to my own self....I've been using midi since it started....and?
 

Recording Yamaha MOXF8 Performance MIDI data to Sonar?

I have just got a yamaha MOXF8 and I want to record the midi data for performances into Sonar. I need to know how one can separate the parts to individual tracks as the MOXF runs all performance data on a single MIDI channel. Apparently in Cubase there is a control called Dissolve Parts which does this very thing.
 
So if someone can post links to any tutorials on this, or can provide any further information I would be grateful.
 
Thanks
 
 ANY INFORMATION?
 Get a Kronos X like me....and that does not happen...Hows that for input and info...on this freaked out planet called Earth.
 
 
Chow!
 
 

You know we are trying to help and your coming back with " I know everything already so don't tell me this". We don't know how much or how little you know about midi. Most people these days don't.  In my 30 years of working with midi and sound modules I've never ran across one that would use 1 channel to trigger all instruments?? Seems screwball to me,,. So now I will know in the future that such a beast does exsist.  
 
Seems Mystic 38 has a good solution. 

To get 16 MIDI channels from an MOFX use Pattern Mode or Song Mode - not Performance or Master Mode.  Yamaha has a great new website for synths:
https://yamahasynth.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=itemlist&layout=category&task=category&id=26&Itemid=861
 
Scroll down to the MOFX stuff.  The forum is monitored by "Bad Mister" who knows these keyboards inside and out.
 
 

Thanks VB - never knew that site existed...good tip!
 
@Cactus - never said I knew everything, just trying to figure what the hell a link describing midi format 0/1 files was for?! fwiw I agree re the four parts to one channel thing (only in performance mode) , but that's how it is and I just have to learn to deal with it. Just thought with the number of years this Motif arp system has been around, that a Sonar user might have some learned tricks they could pass on. No biggie if there isn't.

I guess i am still confused as to why you have not made progress?..
 
fwiw, this problem has been raised and discussed dozens of times over the years..as its not even Sonar related :).. search/browse motif, mox, moxf, s90xs forums at   http://www.motifator.com/index.php/forum ..los of threads.

 
1. you can convert the performance to a master and use that...this way the 4 zones are distinct.
2. you can edit the performance to send arp output to different mid channels
3. you can setup a multi either via song mode or via the VST editor.
 
I really suggest you integrate the VST3 editor into your workflow. 
 
 

Probably just my old head mystic38, but I just don't get exactly how one gets the four parts of a performance to export via midi to the PC to four separate tracks..when I use a master to store the perf all four parts still transmit on channel 1 so the end result (at the PC end) is still the same....the need to sort through every note to determine whihc instrument it is to be playing. The workaround I am using is to turn off all but one part, play through the song to record that part...then turn it off and move to the next part....rinse and repeat. Takes a while, but I think it would take me longer to figure out the steps needed to go the other way

Why are you using performance mode?

Trying to use the performances for putting down songs into Sonar....

Performance mode is for live performance.  Song and pattern modes are for composing.  Song mode is for when you are using the MOFX's internal sequencer.  PATTERN MODE is what you want to use with Sonar.  There you will have 16 channels.  The EASIEST and MOST POWERFUL way is to use the VST/standalone editor that you can download from Yamaha.  It shows everything you need to set up and edit the sounds you want for you song.  You can use it standalone or as a VSTi plugin inside Sonar.  You'll work in MIDI until your song is written and produced,  Then you can record the audio from the MOFX one track at a time into Sonar to have it as audio.  
 
You will need to read the manual and I highly suggest that you ask question on the Yamaha site I posted earlier.   The MOFX is great sounding and very powerful but it does (just like Sonar) have a learning curve.

thanks vb I will research Pattern Mode some more and try the editor as well...