John
 
Doing it is so much easier than talking about it. 

Not really, actually... at least not for me. Now I know about MIDI 0 vs MIDI 1 Save As. This gives me an important thing to research. That's why I'm prodding for terms, procedures and general info. That way I can glean stuff, poke aroung the manual, poke around the program and get a broader understanding.
 
It's just the way I learn. I've found that if I just learn one way that works immediately then I'm limited. If I get a few ideas, look into them, try some stuff out THEN try it I actually understand what's up. Obviously there is WAY more ways to skin the proverbial cat in Sonar and music production is extremely varied in how things need to be done.
 
So defintely, thank you. I will of course try all that but really... I want to hear as many different ways to do this stuff as possible. I'll try them all so I know how they work and have just a little bit more power over my tiny little universe.
 
Now I can research MIDI 0 and MIDI 1 (although I was having a hard time finding MIDI export entries in the PDF but I'll intertube it).
 
Cheers.

For the specific task of copying selected MIDI clips from one project to another, preserving start times, and leaving behind unwanted events and track parameters, I would suggest something like this:
 
- Open both projects.
- Create the target MIDI/Instrument tracks in your new project (one for each track you will copy)
- Ctrl+tab to the source project.
- Select the tracks you want by sweeping and/or Ctrl+clicking track numbers.
- Ctrl+A to Select All.
- Edit > Select by filter, uncheck any data types you don't want and OK.
- Ctrl+tab back to the new project.
- Select the first target track, set Now time to 1:01:000, and Ctrl+V to paste.
 

I'm in the middle of dling Sonar Gloucester and Win 10 for my laptop. I'm not thinking as much about this as I should. I am completely yours to ask specific questions of and any help I can give is yours for the asking.
 
When it comes to computers and music I started out with MIDI. I know it well. One big reason I use Sonar. Believe it or not none of it is hard. Heck, I can do it that means it has to be easy.   

Since this is all about learning and really I just need to be pointed in the right direction...
 
Googling "Sonar MIDI 1" brought up this old X2 documentation...
 
http://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=SONAR%20X2&language=3&help=MIDI_Files.1.html
 
Still kind of Greek to me but I just started poking at it and I'm learning something. It looks like it'll lead on into more useful stuff and terms that I can then expand my seraches for.
 
It's really that easy for me. Throw out ideas and I'm like a dog with a bone. S'all I need really.
 
Cheers!

brundlefly
For the specific task of copying selected MIDI clips from one project to another, preserving start times, and leaving behind unwanted events and track parameters, I would suggest something like this:
 
- Open both projects.
- Create the target MIDI/Instrument tracks in your new project (one for each track you will copy)
- Ctrl+tab to the source project.
- Select the tracks you want by sweeping and/or Ctrl+clicking track numbers.
- Ctrl+A to Select All.
- Edit > Select by filter, uncheck any data types you don't want and OK.
- Ctrl+tab back to the new project.
- Select the first target track, set Now time to 1:01:000, and Ctrl+V to paste.
 

Okay... that's interesting. Especially the Edit > Select filtering stuff. I was indeed contemplating the two open project route as well and it definitely would add some brevity to certain things. Doesn't cover other stuff but this is exactly the type of idea I want. Just need the old Beep noodle to get moving on this.
 
Thanks, Brunds.
 

John
I'm in the middle of dling Sonar Gloucester and Win 10 for my laptop. I'm not thinking as much about this as I should. I am completely yours to ask specific questions of and any help I can give is yours for the asking.
 
When it comes to computers and music I started out with MIDI. I know it well. One big reason I use Sonar. Believe it or not none of it is hard. Heck, I can do it that means it has to be easy.   

Totally cool, man. Don't go out of your way on my account. This is a casual thread anyway. It is intended to meander. I just want ideas. Of course I chose a release day to post it... lol. Bad timing.
 
Cheers, John. Enjoy the new release.

brundlefly
For the specific task of copying selected MIDI clips from one project to another, preserving start times, and leaving behind unwanted events and track parameters, I would suggest something like this:
 
- Open both projects.
- Create the target MIDI/Instrument tracks in your new project (one for each track you will copy)
- Ctrl+tab to the source project.
- Select the tracks you want by sweeping and/or Ctrl+clicking track numbers.
- Ctrl+A to Select All.
- Edit > Select by filter, uncheck any data types you don't want and OK.
- Ctrl+tab back to the new project.
- Select the first target track, set Now time to 1:01:000, and Ctrl+V to paste.
 

This doesn't seem to work. I may be doing something wrong but I followed the steps. Not sure if this is exactly what I want anyway but it has exposed me to some intersting features/options/dialogs I was not aware of. I'll have to read up more on how to properly work with Selct by Filter (and various other things I uncovered while poking around this stuff).
 
Cheers.

D'of! Looks like I left out "Ctrl+C to copy" after the Select by Filter step. Also, you'll want to skip Ctrl+A if you're selectively copying tracks.

This is one of the things that have me stay with Sonar. Here you have been with Sonar since X1 and there are things you haven't explored yet. To me that just says how deep Sonar is. The most likely things that a user is going to need to do are up front easy to get to and easy to understand. While the power and depth is there not far from the surface and quite accessible.  
 
I've been with Sonar from day one of its first release.  I know it well. Still there are a lot of things I know little about. I know they are there but I don't use them much. Because I have learned it over time and tried each new feature as it was released the learning curve was minimal. For those just starting out it has to be a monster of a program. Even those that have been with it a few years it must seem massive to learn fully. To some degree Sonar is deceptive. Especially with the Skylight GUI. It opens up with a fairly clean look that will catch the innocent off guard. I think that is why the forum is so popular at least in part.     
 
I'm not sure any one person knows it completely. Some few know most of it but most only know what they use and very little else. Yet this forum is so full of helpful folks its an amazing place to be.     

brundlefly
D'of! Looks like I left out "Ctrl+C to copy" after the Select by Filter step. Also, you'll want to skip Ctrl+A if you're selectively copying tracks.

That makes sense. I figured the Select by Filter might act as a copy but if it's intended only to "Select" then yeah... nothing goes to the clipboard and thus can't be pasted (which was what was happening). Kind of odd thing to wrap my head around though filtering things at the Select stage then still having to perform the copy but definitely interesting. I'm sure there are other programs out there that have this type of function but I've never really delved much into anything I don't absolutely need. Gonna try this out.
 
Thanks.

John
This is one of the things that have me stay with Sonar. Here you have been with Sonar since X1 and there are things you haven't explored yet. To me that just says how deep Sonar is. The most likely things that a user is going to need to do are up front easy to get to and easy to understand. While the power and depth is there not far from the surface and quite accessible.  
 
I've been with Sonar from day one of its first release.  I know it well. Still there are a lot of things I know little about. I know they are there but I don't use them much. Because I have learned it over time and tried each new feature as it was released the learning curve was minimal. For those just starting out it has to be a monster of a program. Even those that have been with it a few years it must seem massive to learn fully. To some degree Sonar is deceptive. Especially with the Skylight GUI. It opens up with a fairly clean look that will catch the innocent off guard. I think that is why the forum is so popular at least in part.     
 
I'm not sure any one person knows it completely. Some few know most of it but most only know what they use and very little else. Yet this forum is so full of helpful folks its an amazing place to be.     

Well I think I'd be a lot further along with my Sonar studies this year but I lost a lot of momentum because I am actually using it for practical/professional purposes. It's no longer just an intellectual pursuit. It's starting to make me some money and putting together proper releases/educational material... which really was the whole point of me buying it and going nutballs on learning it.
 
Don't think I'd be nearly at that point so soon without this place.
 
Cakewalk Forums. Making dreams come true.
 
;-)