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2018/02/28 12:51:39
dede
Steev
 
I have a video clip of my ex girlfriend's puppy squatting over the keyboard and peeing on my one month old RAIN power laptop loaded with SONAR 6 PE that made me vomit for real.
 I was shoot a video tutorial on how to mic an acoustic guitar and she thought it would be a cute background shot to place her adorable new puppy on the desk behind me while making recording the video.
 When I turned around and saw what was going on my first thought was to kill the puppy and make her eat it raw while it was still warm.
 



 
Ouch man, you must precede such a post by a WARNING: THIS POST CONTAINS SCENES THAT SOME READERS MAY FIND UNBEARABLE
 
You almost made me puke on my laptop myself, felt so sick!!...
 
 
I guess that, before chasing your girl out of your house  forever, making a nice cat sushi plate for her would have been fair enough. You've been extremely nice.
 
2018/02/28 12:56:25
dede
To close the Ukulele Trashing affair at Bandlab,
 
I saw Jimi Hendrix I saw how wonderful he was at the guitar, and I was really admiring him, and then he started his antics. Making love to the guitar. And then, as if that was not enough, he burned the guitar. That was too much for me. In our culture we have such respect for musical instruments, they are like part of God.
-Ravi Shankar
 
"The telephone rang and I put the sitar down, stood up and went to step across the sitar to go to the phone and Ravi whacked me on the leg and said 'the first thing you must realise is that you must have more respect for your instrument'."-George Harrison
 
Sorry for this rant really, I'm in a mood ....
2018/02/28 15:02:57
Kamikaze
Old jazz joke
 
What's the difference between a banjo and a ukulele?
 
Ukuleles are quicker to burn
2018/02/28 16:01:20
Steev
Rant well taken and appreciated dede.. I like a good rant, rants are invigorating and inspiring as long as the rants aren't confused with, or conflated to mere paltry whining...
 I shall be hoping and wishing to jam and collaborate with you on Bandlab, perhaps in the very near future?
 
 I too have a deeply embedded respect for all musical instruments. Even cheap poorly tuned banjos played by drunken rednecks who make me angry, and who never even come close to saying or playing anything I want to hear.
 Muzak I can only sit quietly and respectfully through and "think" to myself while listening, OMG, than God Pete Seeger can't heard this, he'd probably claw his way out of his grave and stab this nasty fool in the eye with a boney skeletal digit.
And I sit patiently, smiling while the images dance through the canyons of my inner brainpan and wait until it's over, and try my best to keep in mind........... It's NOT the banjo's fault.
 
 I actually teared up at a Who concert when they smashed their equipment up at the end of a live concert in the mid 60's. Grrrrr, hard to find the right words to describe how I felt... But 40+ years later I remember it vividly.
 I was only a kid working 2 paper routes, The Newark Star Ledger in the morning before school and the Perth Amboy  Evening News in the afternoon after school to pay off my first good guitar held for ransom at the local music store on a lay away plan.. It was a Fender Stratocaster that was so shiny it sparkled like the Milky Way...:-P
 I only had it 1/2 paid off when I sat at the concert and watched Pete Townsend beat both Keith Moon's Ludwig drum set and his Strat into tinder wood with an exactly clone of the guitar I had on layway.. The very guitar of my dreams that I could only touch and play for a few minutes at a time once a week when I went to the music store and handed all the money I made from delivering news print through rain, sleet, or snow, and nice days too..
 Six months later that Strat was mine..
And even though I can certainly appreciate the contributions and achievements the Who made to rock music, I was never a fan after that concert, and I never spent one red cent for their records or even Juke Box plays.
 And THAT'S spoken from a TRUE AMERICAN musician who unfortunately is no longer a very proud American in light of the current ummm, conditions(?). We'll all be OK.. A bit more broken into pieces, but we'll be back.... Eventually............ If we all pull together as a teammm.....
 
 Anyway, there's nothing I can do about all that, but I just found a cool quadcore ACER 15" touch screen Chromebook on Creig's List for $150. 4 gigs of RAM, 32 GB storage, might just be the missing link to run smoothly on Bandlab... What with it being a chrome book and all, it's gotsta have a bit more Ummmph than my Samsung Galaxy, which believe it or not isn't too shabby running Audio Evolution DAW for Androids when I hook my Scarlett 18i20 up to it, it makes great multi track recordings @ 24/48.. Not so much with the smartphone's built in mic, OK recording for Foley sounds and noises, but you can forget about multi tracking. It's more like overdubbing with the built in mic.
2018/02/28 16:26:11
Steev
Ever see the YouTube video with the guy performing on a Ukulele and a loop pedal covering Michael Jackson's song Billy Jean? 
 Definitely worth the trouble of a Google search! 
2018/03/06 16:56:35
AntManB
Steev
Ever see the YouTube video with the guy performing on a Ukulele and a loop pedal covering Michael Jackson's song Billy Jean? 
 Definitely worth the trouble of a Google search! 




Are you thinking of the one by James Hill?  If so, it's even more impressive because he's not using a loop pedal - just playing all the parts at once!
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gyxeXW_2T8
 
AMB
 
2018/03/06 19:22:01
davehorch
open it in Sound Forge for a “Mastering” session.
 Sound Forge has some really, really good mastering plugins. But I still couldn’t resist trying at least a  final A/B comparison with iZotope Ozone “touch up” before deciding which is better.

 
... and the winner was (is)??
2018/03/06 21:15:05
Steev
AntManB
Steev
Ever see the YouTube video with the guy performing on a Ukulele and a loop pedal covering Michael Jackson's song Billy Jean? 
 Definitely worth the trouble of a Google search! 




Are you thinking of the one by James Hill?  If so, it's even more impressive because he's not using a loop pedal - just playing all the parts at once!
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gyxeXW_2T8
 
AMB
 


Ah MAN thanks for that link! And thanks much for clarifying it was James Hill and that he wasn't in fact using a loop pedal. And that does indeed make it a whole tear HIGHER of impressive. 
I was actually turned on to that about 10 years ago during a break whilst I playing a local bar by a girl who played it from an iPod.
 It was actually me jamming off a loop pedal, LoL, and no I wasn't jamming Billy Jean.
 Not that I wouldn't mind trying, now that I thing about it, and no on a Uke. 
 
davehorch
open it in Sound Forge for a “Mastering” session.
 Sound Forge has some really, really good mastering plugins. But I still couldn’t resist trying at least a  final A/B comparison with iZotope Ozone “touch up” before deciding which is better.

 
... and the winner was (is)??




 
Actually it's a toss up Dave, sometimes Ozone bring it over the top, and sometimes I get it right and nail it before exporting to a stereo .wav in SPLAT with simple "subtle" treatments of Waves Adaptive EQ or Cakewalk Adaptive Limiter, or maybe Softube's Drawmer S73 Intelligent Mastering Processor tied into the maser buss output. Or simply using nothing depending the source material.
 But mastering multiple songs together for an album or demo requires a more detailed and finer tuning to the format they will be delivered in. .mp3, CD, DVD surround or whatever. I've never seen any DAW really suited for final mastering work.
 
 And depending on the genre and or mood I'm in trying to finish up before a deadline, and how much ear fatigue I compile after several hours of prepping it for mastering with final the mixing of the order of songs, tweaking to make everything sit in the mix where I want it and smoothing and gluing it all together cohesively from on song to the next without the listener having to reach for EQ or volume controls on their stereo. 
 
  When ear fatigue sets in, it's not all that hard to make a song sound worse by over processing it. ;-(
 And you won't even notice until listening to it the next day with an A/B or even C test.
 Oh and BTW, here's a fun fact, Sound Forge Pro ships with "Izotope Mastering Suite" which consists of all the plugin modules of Ozone. They're just separate plugins you run one at a time, not all together like in the Ozone GUI.
 
 And so the REAL winner is................................ of course SONAR Platinum.
 Because no mater how much I rely on Sound Forge for mastering, it still won't polish a turd, and if I export a turd out of SPLAT, that would be entirely MY fault!
2018/03/06 22:54:48
Phoen1xPJ
Steev
PhoenixVA
I have posted a song I did in SPlat on BandLab:
 
https://www.bandlab.com/p...e811-80c3-00155d60d108


 
 And so Peter.......... Is there a way to download a multi track version of your song post for collaboration for remixing and or adding or replacing, and or working on existing vocals to get the party started?




Hey Steev, yes! I looked for u on BandLab but couldn't find you. If you follow me I can add u as a collaborator on the tune, then u can download. On same as here: phoen1xpj 
 
2018/03/07 01:14:26
DaddyV
I think it's cool that Meng checks out our posts. I think he's interested in improving Bandlab while not loosing the veteran SONAR guys-us that is. If you explore over there a bit you'll see what I mean. The stuff is OK for what it is. I hear lots of clipped out over modulated Mics and loops made by wanna be's. That's not necessarily a bad thing, at least there is some creativity there. Humanity is not lost, it just sounds like ****!
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