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2015/07/22 14:06:29
Zargg
Chevy
Sorry, I'm just getting going, and maybe Sonar isn't my ideal platform, but can't afford to switch horses now. 
The Send display in the Track View is great, you get a listing of all sends, simple, very compact, clear and concise, why couldn't they just use that same setup in a window in the Console View? 
And it just doesn't make any sense to have the Prochannel stuff "disappear" in the Console view...  doesn't it make you wonder what you have set up in there sometimes, and you have to take the extra step just to view it?  
Also, in Track View, any Prochannel stuff you have engaged doesn't appear in the FX window like all the other plugins... you have to go look for it... this is just a plain mistake to me..., added work. 
Anyways, my 2 cents, I'd like to see all sends and plugins in plain view at all times. 
 




Hi.
I believe that you can see the ProChannel in the inspector in X3 (I) under ProChannel. 
I for one use  templates / presets for my ProChannel a lot, so I know what is under "each hidden module". It saves space, and allows for easier (for me, anyway) viewing the Console View (especially if you use track / bus colors) when you have a large project.
All the "sends and plugins stacking windows" have been upgraded in SONAR 2015.
Best of luck.
I wrote while John gave you the answer in a short version
2015/07/25 15:01:11
Anderton
Chevy
Sorry, I'm just getting going, and maybe Sonar isn't my ideal platform, but can't afford to switch horses now. 
The Send display in the Track View is great, you get a listing of all sends, simple, very compact, clear and concise, why couldn't they just use that same setup in a window in the Console View? 
And it just doesn't make any sense to have the Prochannel stuff "disappear" in the Console view...  doesn't it make you wonder what you have set up in there sometimes, and you have to take the extra step just to view it?  
Also, in Track View, any Prochannel stuff you have engaged doesn't appear in the FX window like all the other plugins... you have to go look for it... this is just a plain mistake to me..., added work. 
Anyways, my 2 cents, I'd like to see all sends and plugins in plain view at all times. 

 
Keeping in mind that Platinum fixes most of the viewing limitations in X3's Console view, I think what you experience relates to what are the intended functions of track view and console view. For me, track view is where I set up sends, adjust them, edit clips, add clip FX, etc. When I'm done with that, then I switch over to Console view for the actual mixing.
 
In the Console view, the Inspector is very handy for making ProChannel tweaks so you don't have to open the flyout.
 
 
Rather than try to make the Console view do what's optimized in Track view, I use the fabulous and highly underrated D keyboard command to switch between the two views. Hit D - tweak in track view - hit D again - back to mixing. If my keyboard dies a premature death, it will be from wearing out the D key...
 
2015/07/26 12:31:03
Chevy
Anderton
 
In the Console view, the Inspector is very handy for making ProChannel tweaks so you don't have to open the flyout.
 
 Rather than try to make the Console view do what's optimized in Track view, I use the fabulous and highly underrated D keyboard command to switch between the two views. Hit D - tweak in track view - hit D again - back to mixing. If my keyboard dies a premature death, it will be from wearing out the D key...
 

OK, yes...  D and I...   very quick and very useful toggles... thanks.   However, I'm still of the opinion at this point that we'll use the h*** out of the D because we toggle to see on the Track view what could have easily been shown on the Console view. 
2015/07/26 12:37:04
scook
If it is that big a deal, upgrade to the new SONAR.
2015/07/27 12:40:42
Chevy
scook
If it is that big a deal, upgrade to the new SONAR.


10-4 on that, don't want to rub anyone the wrong way, but hoping that feedback from the peanut gallery (noobs or others like me) might get someone's attention, prompting them to improve things ...
2015/07/27 14:28:25
Anderton
If you want to see all the ProChannels in the Console view, ctrl-click one of the ProChannel flyout buttons and they'll all fly out. If nothing else, it impresses the living daylights out of clients 
2015/07/27 15:03:05
John
Chevy
scook
If it is that big a deal, upgrade to the new SONAR.


10-4 on that, don't want to rub anyone the wrong way, but hoping that feedback from the peanut gallery (noobs or others like me) might get someone's attention, prompting them to improve things ...


Thats not going to happen in X3. Its an old version. What many others are telling you is there is no point in ragging on X3's shortcomings when many of those were taken care of in Sonar 2015, the current version. The other thing you should get familiar with is screen sets. They will allow you to setup your project the way you want with easy access to various views. There are tons of videos on them as well as other aspects of Sonar.
 
I wouldn't ask advice from new users that don't know the ends and outs of Sonar. It would be the blind leading the blind. 
 
You already learned a lot here just in the few posts the helpful Sonar members have posted. We will continue to help as needed. 
2015/07/28 12:59:24
Chevy
Thanks, guys... as always,  very, very much appreciated!
2015/07/28 20:01:29
mettelus
Have you tried the demo for the new SONAR? Keyboard shortcuts is another helpful tool for some of the above comments. It is impossible to see everything at once, but much is customizable and shortcuts help with navigation.
2015/07/28 20:10:05
Anderton
mettelus
It is impossible to see everything at once...



Agreed! Simple experiment: Measure the square inches of your monitor. Measure the square inches of an SSL console. 
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