2015/07/23 02:43:11
taccess
Hi Everyone
 
iam wondering if someone can help me ,
 
on a track in Pvr on C4 and C#4 i have 2 keyswitches for changing sounds on g-player  , i want to find out what the midi CC is for c4 and c#4 so i can write in midi text in sibelius .
 
when i open az controller and hit those 2 keys it shows
 
Ch:1 N:67
Ch:1 N:68   however these are not CC numbers or are they.
 
is there a way to find the CC midi numbers for these 2 keys in pvr or any way to assign CC to the 2 keys ?
 
Any help is appreciated thanks
2015/07/23 02:54:25
azslow3
I do not really understand the question (not even what is pVR), so sorry in case I miss the point completely
 
"Ch:1 N:67" means "Note On" MIDI event. C4(C#4) are notes if I understand correctly, so they map to "Note" MIDI events nicely.
MIDI CC is a different type of MIDI messages. There is no "CC for note C4", but for example there is "CC for volume control".
2015/07/23 03:21:14
taccess
Sorry PRV piano roll view
 
 ok so theres no way of getting a MIDI CC number for any 2 keys in piano roll?
2015/07/23 03:27:06
taccess
basically iam trying to connect to to keyswitches in piano roll view via midi cc,
 
so say keys c4 and c#4 on track 1 are my keyswitches , iam trying to send a signal from sibelius to sonar to trigger the keyswitches
 
now i can connect sonar to sibelius no problem  i just need midi CC numbers for those 2 keyswitches in PRV so i can put them into sibelius and im done .
 
So is it possible to get Midi CC for any keys in any track inside sonar in the piano roll ????
 
Regards
 
2015/07/23 04:42:33
azslow3
In general, "keys" in PRV are notes. And notes have no associated CCs, they are MIDI Notes.
PRV also shows CC (Controller Changes) separately.
 
May be someone with g-player can help you to find working solution for changing sounds there.
2015/07/23 05:10:32
mudgel
I think he's saying that on the virtual keyboard for his soft synth there is a key switch that takes place. When he presses the virtual keyboard key C4

I think he needs to find out what midi message is sent when that key is pressed.
2015/07/23 06:40:24
azslow3
My interpretation is that he tries to find the way to switch sounds in G-Player from Sibelius. And if I get the idea right, he has defined "switches" in G-Player on some channel (comming from the track one) and he tries to send something from Sibelius to trigger these switch.
 
But since I have no expierence with Sibelius nor with G-Player, I can not spot the problem...
It can happened that Sibelius can not send Notes but only CC (is it true? I mean it can for sure sends Notes from stam, but as "special" events?). It can happened G-Player has no CC support for switches (is it true?). Or it can happened that he is just looking for MIDI code for "Note C4" (but it should not be N:67 then, so puzzled) in the acceptable for Sibelius form. So, I still have too many undefined variables to propose a solution for this equetion
2015/07/23 09:42:31
DRanck
Keyswitches in the PRV are notes, not CC messages. In Sibelius you can also use note keyswitches through a user defined soundset. I think that may be what you need to do.
2015/07/23 23:05:08
taccess
My interpretation is that he tries to find the way to switch sounds in G-Player from Sibelius
 
Thanks for the replies , yes in g-player i have found someways of connecting
i.e 1) program change ,2)CONTROL CHANGE ,3)key switch which is no good for what i want to do ,4)Velocity which iam sure will work fine HOWEVER i am not sure if i use this if it will interfere when notes in sibelius are played in different dynamics? ,5)Random which sounds to out there for me .
So control change in g-player and a midi envelope on my track in sonar and she works fine .
 
However iam glad i asked this question so i can dive a little deeper into sibelius
 
In Sibelius you can also use note key switches through a user defined sound set
 
I have created manual sound sets in sibelius and done some reading in the manual on what your suggesting  , and would love to use this feature ,
 
Can you point me to the page in Sibelius manual or better still post some quick steps on achieving this please? As this would be much more useful for me .
 
Regards
 
 
2015/07/24 19:58:20
DRanck
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