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2015/07/14 22:51:30
goldtonestudio
Sorry if this is posted in the wrong place! This is my first post here.
Here's What I want to do:
I do not want to use samples.
I want to make clone "MIDI" tracks of all my drum tracks so I can replace them with Addictive Drums 2.
That way I can control and tweek them how I want them.
But I cant figure out how to do it. I have approx. 10 different drum tracks. I want to replace the whole kit.
I am able to select the audio drum track and drag it to a midi track but then I cant figure out how to
get Addictive Drums to control it once its in that midi track. And also I want to trigger just the transients of the instrument,
not the bleed through sounds. So it would be nice to use Drum Replacer, because it will let you focus in on the right transients.
I guess what I'm looking for is to have my Drummer in Addictive Drums 2 Land!! LOL!
Is that asking too much??
It seems like Drum Replacer only works with samples.
If its possible to do the whole kit in Addictive Drums 2 one track at a time with Drum Replacer, please let me know how.
Thanks!
 
2015/07/14 23:21:26
bluzdog
I usually work on getting the overheads to sound good by themselves and replace the close mics if needed. Kick, snare and toms are easy. HH and cymbals not so much. I haven't tried the latest edition of DR though.
 
Rocky
2015/07/15 01:50:40
Keni
i think I remember reading that you can use Drum Replacer to extract midi, but I'm not sure...

I believe you can convert the audio to midi simply by dragging it to the midi track...

Then as a midi track you can use the midi filter (used to be called interpolate but I think it's been changed and I'm not at a machine I can look). I think it's in the Process menu. Unselect all then select only velocity ad set a lower limit to remove the bleed sounds.

After you've done that for each track, simply set all the midi tracks output to the AD2 synth and selecting by clicking on the keyboard/sample names, drag each note group ( such as all the A3) to the proper sound...

...or you could bounce all the midi tracks together to a single midi track...

Keni
2015/07/15 04:24:57
Bristol_Jonesey
Can you clarify this part please:
 
I have approx. 10 different drum tracks. I want to replace the whole kit.
I am able to select the audio drum track and drag it to a midi track

What are these 10 different drum tracks? Are they the drum tracks from 10 different songs or 10 audio tracks from the same song?
2015/07/15 05:21:29
mudgel
I don't understand, you don't want to use samples but yin want to replace all your tracks with AD2. You know that AD2 uses samples of drums.
2015/07/15 06:53:02
maximumpower
I think what he meant was he wants to use AD2 samples not the built in samples from DR. There are threads on how to do that. If you have Platinum, Cakewalk gave you a free drum production video that showed you how to do many things with drums and Drum Replacer and that was one of them. There are other videos too.
 
(I can link to anything for some reason. Sorry)
 
My advice:
Go to youtube and search "Cakewalk Drum Replacer".
 
You can also go to CakeTV (on the Cakewalk site). 
 
You can look in your account (if you have Platinum) and get the Drum Production video.
 
You can search on this site as there were other posts on how to do it. I even made a video on how to do it but I can't link to it. 
 
You can do what you want to do though. The information is out there.
 
If you are still having trouble, and if someone else hasn't helped you, I will work on figuring out how to link to the information. I have to go to work now. :-)
 
Good luck!
2015/07/15 17:40:51
goldtonestudio
Bristol; I have approx. 10 tracks of drums (HH, SN, K, 3 Toms, etc.)in each of my songs that I want to go to Addictive Drums.
 
And I know that all those sounds from AD 2 are samples, but I want to have the midi tracks go through AD2 so I can go into all the settings in AD2 and be able to tweek any sound I want.
And I know that I can hit a drum in AD2 and drag the sample wav. to drum replacer, but I want to be able to mix like a real drum set in AD2, for example adjust the mic distance or the distortion on an independent drum. I dont want to be boxed in by a "sample", if that makes sense.
 
Maximumpower: I have Platinum and I did already look at all the videos on Youtube and the Advanced Video I downloaded from Cakewalk, but none of them show how to do what I am trying to do.
 
Keni; After I drag my Drum audio track to a midi track, there's no where in the outputs to select AD2 it says things like Midi 1, Midi 2, Midi 3, etc.
It doesn't help I'm a guitar player not a keyboard player, so I'm not real familiar with Midi stuff.
What I'm trying is probably not even possible. But I hope it is!!
2015/07/15 19:51:23
goldtonestudio
Okay, I think this video is gonna get me in the right direction.
Hopefully it will help others too!
This guy looks like he knows Sonar pretty well. I'm gonna watch all of his videos.
His name is Andrew Byrne Mixing  on Youtube
The video is titled Sonar Platinum, Drum Replacer with Addictive Drums 2
 
2015/07/16 04:29:16
greatrockgod
Another tool you can try to convert the transients to midi is audiosnap. You can adjust the sensitivity so you only get transients that are over the threshold and you can also manually add, remove, and adjust the transients that audiosnap detects befor exporting it to midi. If you have a lot of mic bleed it might be a pain but I have successfully used it to add Session Drummer to mix with the recorded kit and it was pretty easy for me to get what I wanted. I think it'd be the same for Addictive Drums as long as you know what midi notes to export to.
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