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  • Hat question (p.2)
2015/07/13 13:39:19
Wookiee
Yes Revnice1
2015/07/13 17:51:57
BRuys
If it was me, I'd put a mic above and a mic below the hats and pan them left/right.  There are many technical tricks that can be used, as discussed earlier in this thread, but nothing beats actually having two separate sources.  You could still play with some of the other techniques discussed.
2015/07/13 18:04:01
revnice1
BR: It's a virtual kit but I'm thinking of trying hats from two kits panned L & R. That would serve as the two sources.
2015/07/13 19:29:45
bluzdog
revnice1
I'm finding the Sonitis Delay to be quite effective, then a stereo reverb but only a tad.




Nothing wrong with both. I would set up a delay bus and a reverb bus with sends to both from the hat track and play around with panning etc. You might even want to send the delay bus to the reverb bus to put it in the same space.
 
Rocky
2015/07/13 19:49:23
gswitz
How about Craig Anderton's old trick of stereo Mirrored EQ settings so the left channel looks one way and the right channel looks the exact opposite?
2015/07/13 20:51:30
Beepster
gswitz
How about Craig Anderton's old trick of stereo Mirrored EQ settings so the left channel looks one way and the right channel looks the exact opposite?




Yeah, that's a neat trick. I've been meaning to try it. I think I've got the exact settings for it typed up somewhere. He uses the VC-64 and it's on guitar though but I don't see why it wouldn't work on other stuff using cloned tracks and any decent parametric EQ.
 
revnice... if you are using a drum synth anyway you could probably set up the synth to output a wide stereo hi hat anyway. Like using the aux outs and/or maybe perc slots (to slide in another instance of the hats).
2015/07/13 23:47:57
BRuys
revnice1
BR: It's a virtual kit but I'm thinking of trying hats from two kits panned L & R. That would serve as the two sources.


Ah, I see.  I have a Pearl Masters Studio kit in my studio.  I LOVE recording live drums and often forget that most people around here use virtual kits.  Drum kits are one of the most challenging instruments to record, but also one of the most rewarding when you get it right.
 
Good luck with your quest :)
2015/07/14 03:12:58
joyof60
Since I have learned to play nice with MIDI, I find that technique real effective with my pianos, using two slightly different piano voices hard panned left and right without any delay or verb, the subtle difference in the tonal structure gives a wonderful wide fat effect. I can see the same thing happening with the different hats as well.
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