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2015/07/06 14:16:57
garygml
Hi guys my son wants to record his band in my garage using my sonar platinum.....(the only difficult thing Being the Drums) but the problem i only have  a Focusrite Forte 2 in 4 out usb & Focusrite Scarlett Studio 2 in 2 out would it be possible to use both of these at the same time???...my other option is i have an Allen & Heath ZED 10 USB mixer.any help would be most gratefull
 
Cheers
Gary
2015/07/06 14:54:33
TheMaartian
Unfortunately, Windows does not support multiple simultaneous USB audio interfaces. And I'm not sure about the A&H USB port (no ASIO driver that I could find; not even sure if it's Class Compliant). You may need to feed the A&H's S1 Line Outs to the Focusrite Scarlett Line Ins to get it into SONAR.
 
If you don't think it's possible to get a high quality recording of a group from even a single mic, check out the Benny Goodman "Live at Carnegie Hall" double CD. The band that night (16 Jan 1938) included Count Basie, Teddy Wilson, Lionel Hampton, Bobby Hackett, Johnny Hodges, Harry Carney, Cootie Williams, Freddie Green, Walter Page, Lester Young, Buck Clayton, Harry James, Gene Kruppa, Vernon Brown, and vocals by Martha Tilton.
 
What a lineup! All recorded through a single overhead mic and piped directly to CBS Radio.
 
It can be done! Good luck!
2015/07/06 14:57:59
Bristol_Jonesey
Even if you had a multi input interface, how many suitable mics do you have?
 
You could consider hiring an interface just for this recording, but again, it all comes down to what's in your mic locker
2015/07/06 15:02:34
garygml
Iv got access to 4 decent mics... How would I record to separate tracks(sorry for asking silly questions iv never recorded drums before) 
2015/07/06 15:07:41
TheMaartian
Unless you take Jonesey's advice and rent a device just for this recording session, all you are going to get with your existing kit is one stereo channel. If you put 2 overhead mics on the drums, you've got 2 inputs remaining on the A&H. You may just want to use two mics for the entire group (in that case, just use the Scarlett). In SONAR, you'll get two tracks, Left and Right.
2015/07/06 15:09:05
Bristol_Jonesey
4 inputs would be good.
 
You could stick one mic on the kick, one on the snare and 2 as overheads.
 
What mics are they?
2015/07/06 15:16:18
garygml
    Iv 2 rode nt 1s  a focusrite & an akg ..so would route it into the a&h then into the focusrite forte?
2015/07/06 15:27:03
bandso
Record the drums as overheads in stereo with your 2 mics. Then go in and supplement these 2 tracks with drum samples as the "close" mics. You could then convert the newly placed drum samples into midi notes and use a drum program to change kit sounds (as long as they are relatively close to the originally recorded drum sounds.) It's easier to do than you would think and you only need 2 inputs on your interface. PM me if you need some instructions on how to do this and I'll point you to a excellent groove3.com video that handles just this exact topic. (Cakewalk partnered with Groove3.com in the past so people please don't cry that I'm spamming). I've just been down this same road and this was the answer for me (until I got a multi-input interface.)
2015/07/06 15:32:32
garygml
Cheers bandso I think that Just went straight over my head lol... Can u break it down a bit
2015/07/06 15:33:51
Bristol_Jonesey
Don't forget you also have access to the new Drum Replacer in Platinum.
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