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Do any other DAW's out there allow a VST synth to be recorded in real-time?

Pro Tools.  Cubase.   I've used Cubase for this very thing - it works smoothly, easily, totally in sync.   Dead Easy & flawlessly perfect.     

Anderton
I wasn't saying what you wanted, I was saying what I wanted. As I rarely use the drum pane or drum maps, I'd 1000% more like to see a drum machine mode for the PRV.

There is the same situation, there is a bunch of plug-ins that can do drum machine, so why add something that can be done already?

noel's answer is the most informative, actually going some way to explaining why sonar doesn't do this, rather than offering workarounds and questioning why a user might want to do it
thanks noel :)

pwalpwal
noel's answer is the most informative, actually going some way to explaining why sonar doesn't do this, rather than offering workarounds and questioning why a user might want to do it
thanks noel :)

I guess that was the goal of his answer...
 
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"Windows 32bit claims it can everything. After drinking 32 beers, I also normally start claiming I can do everything!"

There are always alternatives in the toolbox. I'd rather be using Sonar than another DAW though. Physical cable loopbacks.... frack that... give me a hovercar instead...

pwalpwal
noel's answer is the most informative, actually going some way to explaining why sonar doesn't do this, rather than offering workarounds and questioning why a user might want to do it
thanks noel :)

 
Agreed about Noel's answer, but IMHO the other elements further the discussion. It's not necessarily obvious why this capability is needed, and it took several posts to establish that it's important only if a) the synth has parameters that aren't recordable as MIDI data, b) these parameters involve randomization, c) the person is playing a part and evaluating it simultaneously, and d) it is not acceptable to try different randomizations of parameters and then decide if you like one version more than another. That's a fairly specific set of circumstances, and it's understandable why people couldn't relate if it's not a part of their workflow.
 
As to workarounds, I think one of the best functions of a forum is to provide solutions. Using two patch cords and the external insert plug-in provides a solution that addresses a-d above. Of course, it's not as elegant as being able to hit a record button for the instrument track; that's obvious. But it's not necessarily elegant to switch to another program solely to meet the a-d conditions above. With a recent thread asking whether people have forgotten about the external insert option, it seemed worth underscoring. 
 
I don't think using two patch cords is complicated, but I play guitar  . Figuring out how to run the AC adapters to the effects...now that's complicated.

I think one of the reasons why people continue raising that not most important question is that they could be frustrated by knowing that there is a feature, that is implemented in any other DAW, but not in Sonar. It has psychological aspect, that should not be underestimated. Every DAW has it, Sonar hasn't => Sonar is worse than other DAWs; I use Sonar => I am worse than others. It sounds ridicules, but...

That is why the hovercar needs to be released as soon as possible.

Adq
I think one of the reasons why people continue raising that not most important question is that they could be frustrated by knowing that there is a feature, that is implemented in any other DAW, but not in Sonar. It has psychological aspect, that should not be underestimated. Every DAW has it, Sonar hasn't => Sonar is worse than other DAWs; I use Sonar => I am worse than others. It sounds ridicules, but...

Yes, but you can play that game with any DAW. There are so many things SONAR does that other DAWs don't do...I just received an email from a manufacturer that has been creating templates for various DAWs for an upcoming product, and he praised SONAR for having a proper NRPN implementation, the ability to rename CC lists for specific instruments, and various other features that in his viewpoint as a developer were done so much better than other DAWs. 
 
But really, at the end of the day all that matters is the emotional impact on the listener of the music you create with your DAW of choice. If people see DAWs solely as a collection of features, IMHO they're missing the point.

I did that so many times recording audio the lIve in beatscape. But there are Two things required the audio card and type of synth plugin you are using. Limits it by turning off rec button. Emu 1212m had that function working great but not line 6 ux2 interface for example. This is in sonar pro x2
And ps beatscape recorded both audio wave and the performance midi triggers same time.