• SONAR
  • Really incredible that we still can't record a soft synth's output in real time (p.4)
2013/08/08 08:18:57
musichoo
Yes yes yes. Thank You Sharke for bringing this up. I have a Harmor softsynth made by Imageline. Sonar X2 just could not record any of Harmor's real time XY control from  from my mouse movement. This is a great feature request! I would definitely upgrade to X3 if this recording feature is implemented.  
2013/08/08 09:32:49
sharke
musichoo
Yes yes yes. Thank You Sharke for bringing this up. I have a Harmor softsynth made by Imageline. Sonar X2 just could not record any of Harmor's real time XY control from  from my mouse movement. This is a great feature request! I would definitely upgrade to X3 if this recording feature is implemented.  




Does it support OSC controllers like Reaktor? If so, you'd be able to set up an iPhone/iPad to record the XY control. 
2013/08/08 12:43:53
beltrom
sharke
musichoo
Yes yes yes. Thank You Sharke for bringing this up. I have a Harmor softsynth made by Imageline. Sonar X2 just could not record any of Harmor's real time XY control from  from my mouse movement. This is a great feature request! I would definitely upgrade to X3 if this recording feature is implemented.  




Does it support OSC controllers like Reaktor? If so, you'd be able to set up an iPhone/iPad to record the XY control. 




I have Harmor. Not sure if it's what you want musichoo, but you can set up automation lanes for Mod x, y and z, if you do that Sonar records your GUI movements. Personally I prefer to set up a controller for them instead and record them from there - but it does work with the GUI as well.
2013/08/08 23:50:09
Living Room Rocker
ULTRABRA
 
Saffire 24 Pro has a loopback which allows this?  How does that work in Sonar - what is the process setting up the necessary tracks?


Go to your Saffire MixControl and mouse click on Input FX and from the pop-up menu click on "Router".   From there you will see the following lower section.  You will now notice two Loop Back outputs which you can choose your mix output.
 
Go into Preferences in Sonar and check the input(s) for the Loop Back(s).  Now you can choose either of those in the input of an audio track or tracks.
 
Kind regards,
 
Living Room Rocker
 
P.S.  Not able to insert/paste pictures/graphics.
2013/08/09 07:45:20
ULTRABRA
Thanks - I recently gt a Saffire so I'll give this a try.  
 
 
Living Room Rocker
ULTRABRA
 
Saffire 24 Pro has a loopback which allows this?  How does that work in Sonar - what is the process setting up the necessary tracks?


Go to your Saffire MixControl and mouse click on Input FX and from the pop-up menu click on "Router".   From there you will see the following lower section.  You will now notice two Loop Back outputs which you can choose your mix output.
 
Go into Preferences in Sonar and check the input(s) for the Loop Back(s).  Now you can choose either of those in the input of an audio track or tracks.
 
Kind regards,
 
Living Room Rocker
 
P.S.  Not able to insert/paste pictures/graphics.




2013/08/09 07:50:09
ULTRABRA
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2013/08/09 08:00:38
2:43AM
In response to the OP, I too have wondered why the record button keeps disappearing when I route a soft synth's output as the audio channel's input. I wondered it for about 8 seconds and then just did a loop-back input to record the audio stream. There are some limitations to this, however, as ALL audio will be recorded. It's almost like the old, "What You Hear" thing in Windows. So all other tracks must be muted. OK for some things, but limiting in others. Therefore, I agree the ability to record a soft synth directly would be a valuable feature.  Maybe if we all submit a feature request, it will appear that these things will take higher priority.
 
ULTRABRA
Saffire 24 Pro has a loopback which allows this?  How does that work in Sonar - what is the process setting up the necessary tracks?



Easy peasy. In MixControl set your loop back channels to DAW1 and DAW2 respectively.  Make sure those channels are enabled and available in Sonar's audio preferences.  Create a new audio track and set its input to that loop-back (either L/R/Stereo).
2013/08/09 15:06:22
PilotGav
mmorgan
Have gone the feature request route yet? I'd start there and I would agree that it seems like a good thing to be able to do.

 
Members have been requesting this feature for YEARS. It's a horrible limitation that has stopped me up MANY times. for example... 
 
I was working on a piece using an ARP 2600 style plug in. Randon Sample/Hold was an important part of the sound. I wanted to record the part and capture the take that sounded best to me - in other words the one that the RSH gave the coolest performance.
 
If I only recorded the midi, it would be different EVERY time the song was played in Sonar. I would have NO idea what I'd end up with in the final mix. So I wanted to be able to record each take. NO CAN DO. 
 
What good is a recording setup when you can't RECORD the audio :-)
 
Frustrating.
2013/08/09 19:53:27
musichoo
beltrom
sharke
musichoo
Yes yes yes. Thank You Sharke for bringing this up. I have a Harmor softsynth made by Imageline. Sonar X2 just could not record any of Harmor's real time XY control from  from my mouse movement. This is a great feature request! I would definitely upgrade to X3 if this recording feature is implemented.  




Does it support OSC controllers like Reaktor? If so, you'd be able to set up an iPhone/iPad to record the XY control. 




Thanks. I will give that a try!
I have Harmor. Not sure if it's what you want musichoo, but you can set up automation lanes for Mod x, y and z, if you do that Sonar records your GUI movements. Personally I prefer to set up a controller for them instead and record them from there - but it does work with the GUI as well.




2015/07/07 05:30:15
radgeorge
I won't buy anything past Sonar x3 Producer if this valuable feature is still missing from the product.
"Record a soft synth's output in real time" 
The ability to record a soft synth's output in real time becomes more and more important as we all use more and more soft synth modules and want the FULL performance of the module to be captured in wav form NOT midi.
 
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