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2015/06/20 01:15:52
Keni
scook
There may be other software running on the laptop which is interfering with it's ability to run a DAW.


This isn't a laptop... It's a Dell Inspiron 3847 desktop...

I thought I had turned off all other softwares... I'll search some more tomorrow...

Thanks...

What does latencymon do? I'm guessing it reports latency values but anything else?
2015/06/20 01:26:41
scook
My mistake, PC or laptop,  LatencyMon may help resolve your problem. Here is a description of the tool http://www.resplendence.com/latencymon_using. There are others here more expert than I in interpreting the report generated by this tool.
2015/06/20 11:36:35
Keni
scook
My mistake, PC or laptop,  LatencyMon may help resolve your problem. Here is a description of the tool http://www.resplendence.com/latencymon_using. There are others here more expert than I in interpreting the report generated by this tool.


Thanks scook...

I will look over the info on this link ASAP...

In the meantime, I thought of another possible cause/cure...

Currently, there is only the one drive in this machine... The system drive... And I seem to recall solving a similar issue with other machines as soon as I installed a separate audio drive... Even a USB drive...

So I will next quickly attach an external drive and see if that's where the issue lies again... Followed by installing a proper internal audio drive of course...

Thanks again...
Keni

[edit]

I just read through the latencymon page in this link and have a better understanding... Thanks again for your very informative help. I will employ this tool as well as I now see how handy it can be for tuning a DAW...

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2015/06/20 11:56:42
AndyDavis
Keni
Update...
Maybe the cable? What differences are ther to a standard short USB printer cable?



I have a Scarlett 8i6 and when I used a generic USB cable, I got crackles all of the time. The one that Focusrite supplied had ferrite chokes like this one. Using the supplied cable made all of the difference for me.
 
2015/06/20 12:02:26
Keni
AndyDavis
Keni
Update...
Maybe the cable? What differences are ther to a standard short USB printer cable?



I have a Scarlett 8i6 and when I used a generic USB cable, I got crackles all of the time. The one that Focusrite supplied had ferrite chokes like this one. Using the supplied cable made all of the difference for me.
 


Thanks Andy...

I remembered recently reading someone posting about cables... Or it wouldn't have come to mind... As I mentioned earlier in this thread, I once tried running a very long cable with this interface and though it had the chokes, it wouldn't run... So I will check this as well..

Keni
2015/06/20 16:45:10
Keni
Today's update?

I think I got it running but ran out of access time... My current belief is for the first time I left it in record for 20 minutes without a dropout. It needs to be test repeated as well as tested running far longer...

But this took a number of things to get this far...

Hmmm... I'm thinking this is getting too fa off topic for the Sonar forum as this might be considered a computer problem, not Sonar? If so I apologize...

So... Definitely needed to:
Run on USB2
Use separate audio drive
Disable wlan card in device Manager
Disable all Bluetooth everything

...and the last thing I did finally broke the ice.

I found two programs loading at windows bootup for something Realtek even tho all Realtek was already disabled everywhere in Device Manager...

After the 20 minute run I did manage to test switching either the wlan card or the external audio drive status and the dropouts came back... I have not yet tested the Bluetooth being re-enabled

I did test turning Microsoft Essentials on and off, but I did not turn it off when the wlan card was disabled, so maybe turning it off with the wlan card disabled might allow the one drive operation, but it needs a 2nd drive regardless... So I will get that happening as I always planned to...

I'll post more as updates happen...

Thanks Gang!

Keni

[edit]

BTW I forgot to download and use LatencyMon but I will next access for sure... Web was down at the rehearsal studio and I hadn't downloaded it previously...
2015/06/27 19:47:10
Keni
Still having trouble here...

It seems to run better for mixing but continues to get dropouts very quickly in record...

I ran latencymon a few times and it reports a problem for streaming audio suggesting that I check/change "cpu chokes" in control panel and in bios?

I'm not sure what this is referring to. Can anyone give me some ideas what to look for?

Thanks!
Keni
2015/06/30 22:44:04
Keni
Ok...

No ideas?

I found an article describing where/how the throttle issues are to be resolved. In the advanced power settings and in the bios...

I disabled them and LatencyMon now reports that the machine can handle streaming audio without dropouts...

Too bad it's still not true... <sigh>...

Yes, it's a low powered machine. An i3 3.4 with 6G RAM... But for even a mono track with no fx, it will not stay in record... Still getting constant dropouts... I've used this interface on three other machines without a fraction this trouble...

I'm losing it with this machine...

Keni
2015/06/30 23:00:04
scook
I would call tech support.
 
2015/06/30 23:01:04
charlyg
I used an i3 laptop with no issues, until I spilled water on it.
How about doing what I did?
I tried to go up AND down from what I thought the latency should be. It turned out, I needed to add to  the round trip for it to work correctly. Instead of 7.8, I think it was 14.whatever... I fooled around with buffer size,sample rate, etc.
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