Hi Asslow3,
 
I think that all of your ideas are very good.
 
Bullet 1:
I like the idea of splitting this out.   But is it at the expense of "bank shifting" functionality.  In larger projects how would that be accomplished with that setup. Is it possible to have both setups..(SPlit functionality and bank shifting).
 
Bullet 2:
Love the idea.  Is this implementation possible because of bullet 1? Or can this be done now as is ?
 
Bullet 3 (a, b,c and d)
- These are great options to have. The resolution at present appears not different than the default that was there. With that said I do see opportunities where finer resolutions could prove useful ie...plugin parameters.
 
- Instant Convex maybe interesting to try for the faders because it seems to give more option (precise in middle range and "normal" on the edges.. So that would be a go there.
 
- Step fine sound perfect for adjusting plugin parameters more rotary oriented.. Can that be separated by mode?
- This is where combining step fine with "Instant" for plugin control makes sense to me on the rotary controllers and also for the arrow keys to make incremental adjustments on "in focus" plug in control if possible.
 
Speaking to your last comment:
I hope that this sentiment changes. I believe that as technology enables access for more users, The audience and interest for deeper control will widen (in a band I a box market place, this wont happen in droves). Do I think it will become wide spread in the regard of hardware.. I think it depends on the a. the appeal of new products showing up at a non elite price point, b. the potential of work like yours becoming known to potentially "revive" "garaged" hardware with revived or even deeper operational potentials and c. the success of "touch" because this will lead a few more potential users to realize that they prefer a more tactile or hybrid experience if again market forces allow for easier accessibility.
 
Keep in mind that I am an optimist......Thanks again for the work that you are doing. And I will continue to check this out and make observations.
 
 
 
 

Hi Azslow,
 
I don't want to hijack your thead [ I'm really glad you are finally getting users to jump in :-) ] but could you tell me what it takes to successfully build the Cakewalk source on Github? I couldn't find documentation ...
 
Maybe post here (http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3198539) so that your thread is not diluted. Thanks!

LunaTech
Bullet 1:
I like the idea of splitting this out.   But is it at the expense of "bank shifting" functionality.  In larger projects how would that be accomplished with that setup. Is it possible to have both setups..(SPlit functionality and bank shifting).

The only difference from current to proposed change: by Shift you switch by 16 channels while by Shift+Arrows you switch by 8.
 

Bullet 2:
Love the idea.  Is this implementation possible because of bullet 1? Or can this be done now as is ?

Obviously completely unrelated. We do not use Shift+Transport yet.
 

Bullet 3 (a, b,c and d)
- These are great options to have. The resolution at present appears not different than the default that was there. With that said I do see opportunities where finer resolutions could prove useful ie...plugin parameters.

Can you try that yourself and write either I should change the preset?
Just in encoder/fader "Value" Action change related parameters and immediately test how it works.
 
We can also think what can be useful for other parameters: solo, moving throw FXes (it is possible to open/close corresponding windows, move to next/previous, etc). At the moment we have "Next track" and ACT, but we are not moving ACT focus nor using "Current track".

I have followed your instructions after installing the new update and can see the new program settings.  When I move a fader I can confirm AZ Control is getting MIDI data but no movement in the Sonar tracks.  I am sure there is something simple that I have not done.  Sonar shows the AZ Controller as "active".
 
I am excited to try this!  You have gone beyond my expectataions on your work.  Thank you!

You should check what message you see when you move the fader, some thing like "CH:XX CC:YY". Most probably, CH will be not 16, as in LunaTech case. Either switch your ZED to 16, or at least write what you see so I can make preset for your case (if that is really channel problem, I will make it configurable on preset generation).
 
But transport keys should work in any case (till you have newer ZED R16 variation and you have switch it from MMC to CC). So, please check that.

When I move fader #1 on the ZED it reads "Ch:1 CC:1 Value 0 to 127".
 
In Sonar, all 16 tracks and 4 buses indicate that they are under the control of the AZ Controller as indicated by the color bars on all of those tracks.  I just get no movement.

BretB
When I move fader #1 on the ZED it reads "Ch:1 CC:1 Value 0 to 127".

So, your ZED is on channel "1". Please download the latest version, it asks for MIDI Channel during preset generation (you should keep the default, while LuncTech should select "16" there).
 

In Sonar, all 16 tracks and 4 buses indicate that they are under the control of the AZ Controller as indicated by the color bars on all of those tracks.  I just get no movement.

I want to comment on that. What you see as color bars are WAI regions. The preset set these regions, but that has no direct relations to what AZ Controller is going to control. The preset defines (separately!) that the volume/pan of these channels is controlled by faders/encoders. But that is not a must, I (you) can define that fader 16 is always controls Main 3 volume without indicating that or I could indicate that I control 12 tracks while still controlling 16.
 
In general, in Control Surface/DAW world what your hardware sent, what is indicated and what is controlled are independent. While it looks like Hardware Console it is not hardware console. Most producers are not explaining that to make advertisements like that: "Our new controller version has mighty button 'UnMute all', we have worked hard to get it there so please spend another $$$ for our advanced product" (in reality, it is just another button which send "Note:X On" and they call unmute command of DAW in software, 2 lines of code and 5 cents button, thats it).

Aslow, from your site (http://www.azslow.com/index.php/topic,155.0.html) you say "

"In the preset dialog, select MIDI Channel you could see from your fader and press "Generate preset"I don't see these options on any tab.  When I go the the "Hardware" tab, under "logical control" it is showing all on Ch16.  I have uninstalled and started over several times to see if this option only shows up on initial setup.
 
I am embarrassed that I am not getting this and I hate to be a pain.

Hello Azslow3,
 
So to be clear on this:

"Bullet 3 (a, b,c and d)
- These are great options to have. The resolution at present appears not different than the default that was there. With that said I do see opportunities where finer resolutions could prove useful ie...plugin parameters.
Can you try that yourself and write either I should change the preset?
Just in encoder/fader "Value" Action change related parameters and immediately test how it works."
 
What I see on the logic tab.. Under logical controls.. I have selected rotary encoder 1
- Then I see the logic under Action list
- I can highlight the logic relating to the rotary action ie..."catch linear, timeout touch"
- Is this where you mean that I can either copy and modify the setting to combine to actions or I can simply replace the initial value with one that I want to test.
 
Let me know and thanks..

BretB
Aslow, from your site (http://www.azslow.com/index.php/topic,155.0.html) you say "
 
I am embarrassed that I am not getting this and I hate to be a pain.

You need the latest version for that, b163. It is still inside 0.3.1 seria, just re-download to get it. While I have prepared it specially for you, I decide that is not a reason to call it 0.3.2, sorry
 

LunaTech
What I see on the logic tab.. Under logical controls.. I have selected rotary encoder 1
- Then I see the logic under Action list
- I can highlight the logic relating to the rotary action ie..."catch linear, timeout touch"
- Is this where you mean that I can either copy and modify the setting to combine to actions or I can simply replace the initial value with one that I want to test.

Yes, if you highlight (click on) "catch linear, timeout touch" you will see possible options (in the buttom part of the window). Try to change "Catch" to "Instant" there, or "Step" "Fine", or something else.
 
The effect is immediate. You do not need "copy" or save explicitly. Note, that "Instant" you will notice only after you start control different parameters. Curves and "Step" (Endless imitation) you can notice on the same parameter.
 
Please check the documentation for the meaning of all possible options.