• SONAR
  • You can integrate your Control Surface with SONAR as deep as you want! (p.9)
2015/03/29 22:38:37
BretB
Sweet!  I had downloaded the wrong version.  While I haven't tried all of it out, I can tell this is going to be fantastic.  Thanks for your time and effort.
2015/03/31 07:48:06
azslow3
LunaTech
... Getting used to the shift key to move between 8 busses...

 
BretB
...  Sonar shows the AZ Controller as "active"....

I have planned that for long time. It is possible to display arbitrary text in "Control Surface" Module on SONAR Control Bar, where you can always see just "Active".
 
The latest version includes such function. ZED R16 and Startup presets show current Mode and Bank there.
2015/03/31 08:53:13
BretB
All of my 16 faders and 12 rotary and 4 MIDI faders are controlling Sonar.  My transport pads don't seem to do anything.  I can see that they are sending a signal but no action.
2015/03/31 14:15:56
azslow3
Can you write what you see in "Last MIDI Event" when you use transport buttons?
 
As mentioned in documentation, ZED R16 since some hardware/firmware change can send Control Changes instead of MMC. I can add this setting into the preset generation dialog.
2015/03/31 15:31:28
BretB
revised post
2015/03/31 16:12:50
BretB
azslow3
Can you write what you see in "Last MIDI Event" when you use transport buttons?
 

REW = "URT 70 6 5
STOP = "URT 70 6 1"
PLAY = "URT 70 6 2"
FF = "URT 70 6 4"
REC = "URT 70 6 6"
 
When we save a preset does it save a physical file and where?  I would like to make sure and save a good working preset when I want to attempt changing settings to meet future workflow needs or your software revisions that might come in the future.
2015/03/31 17:34:42
azslow3
Thanks, it is still MMC but with different device ID (70, while LunaTech use "broadcast" 7f). I will make it configurable.
 
Current preset is automatically saved, but as in the installation instruction, I recommend save it as named preset. You can have as many named presets as you want and switch between them (the same way as with VST presets). In case you have named it, it exists as a separate file. But instead of working with files directly, I recommend to use CakeWalk Plug-ins Manager (from Utility menu). You can save one preset, group or all presets as one file and then reimport some of them when needed.
 
Preset merging is not planned. So if you regenerate preset within plug-in you can not keep custom changes. And you can not combine presets or copy something from one to another. Sorry. But normally you are going to have just several actions per control, so reinventing changes should not take too much time (well... if you check my forum, you can notice customization with 256 actions per control, but that is an extreme case and we are going to optimize it).
2015/03/31 19:18:09
OldTimerNewComer
azslow3
 
The reality is such that no one cares about control surfaces in SONAR. There are severe bugs for years in ACT mapping, preset names, etc. I do not think CW is going to fix them. As you can see from this thread, the number of interested people can be counted on fingers. We will visit Mars before they write some SONAR specific software.


 
There is more interest in this topic than you know.
 
My controller is very basic. One slider, eight assignable buttons, 8 Banks, 
two increment/decrement buttons. No Sound.
 
Unsupported by Sonar, even though it was made by Roland,
when Roland still owned Cakewalk.
 
I find WAI and ACT to be tedious and incomplete, if SOMEWHAT helpful.
 
I even tried to get into CAL because of it's low level access to Sonar (Thanks for that, bakers).
Funny, how the many versions/updates/flavors of Sonar have never broken THAT.
Then I asked myself do I really want to re-invent the wheel from inside a program that COULD have
done this more thoroughly in the 1st place, and decided I didn't want to learn more CODE.
 
I presently use GlovePie to control Sonar through voice input trigger,
with phenomenal success;
 
The Cakewalk/Roland policy  regarding long term support of a product and
backwards compatibility reminds me of a teenage virgin walking into a room
FULL of whatever  they are seeking, for the very first time...
You just know they aren't staying with ANYONE long.
 
I am hoping this will change under Gibson.
Outlook: hopeful, but guarded.
 
This drove me away from my hardware controller;
What I am reading gives me hope.
 
Can you give me a brief synopsis of what is required from me system-wise to
implement your program?
The rest I think I have gleaned/can glean from the above discussion.
 
Thank you for your help in advance, and kudos for your hard work.
 
Mel
2015/03/31 20:37:56
LunaTech
Hi Azslow3,
 
I had a chance to play with the encoder settings and I believe I am happy with Instant/Convex.  This allows me to not have to wait for the encoder to catch up and I like the action more.  I will try to the other settings (step)  in a plug in scenario soon and report back.  I have the manual to reduce the obvious questions but there may still be some (be patient with the novice tool user ).  I am grateful for your work and appreciate your efforts. Thanks.
2015/04/01 04:20:02
azslow3
OldTimerNewComer
My controller is very basic. One slider, eight assignable buttons, 8 Banks, 
two increment/decrement buttons. No Sound.
 
Unsupported by Sonar, even though it was made by Roland,
when Roland still owned Cakewalk.
...
Can you give me a brief synopsis of what is required from me system-wise to
implement your program?

As you can see in this thread, I have changed my strategy a bit. Instead of "here it is, you can use it" I am ready to write initial presets for particular devices.
 
So, please write which controller you mean (I could not find myself something from Roland fitting your description) and what you expect from it. With that information I can prepare a preset which you can tweak then.
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