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2015/07/05 11:06:27
williamcopper
Come on Mettelus, if you don't know, don't post.    (Wrong, btw  --- that's how it used to be, and a better way it was, but now it's the other way).
 
I think note select only captures notes entirely in the box (just in case you happen to touch stray notes you don't want). Not 100% sure though. Clips just need to be touched to get selected.
2015/07/05 11:11:10
williamcopper
To answer Anderton's question midway above, what to do with note zones?    A) leave out velocity altogether, why in the world have that as a zone when it is available two other good ways (controller pane, or "show velocity with note")  B) we want to drag a notes' length, perhaps:  ok possibly one zone on the right side.  C) other than that, we want to move a note vertically or horizontally, and that should depend entirely on the direction of the mouse movement, NOT on whether we click in some particular place.    We might want to open the properties, so that's a good use for either right click or double click, but make it CONFIGURABLE.    I can't think many people would miss being able to lengthen a note to the left, but if so, then MAKE IT CONFIGURABLE.     If configurable is too difficult then look at sonar 3 through 8 .... that worked, was simple, never made me curse cakewalk.
2015/07/05 12:23:00
Klaus
tomixornot
>Here is the video

https://youtu.be/l3j9houF39E
 
Does this look like a bug ? If yes, I'm going ahead to file a bug report.




Hi,
I can't reproduce this behaviour, but in your video it looks like if the right button of your mouse is performing a fast double click instead a single click.
I've had a similar problem with a mouse some years ago which performed a (left) double click instead a single click, not from the beginning but it got worse over time.
 
2015/07/05 12:38:26
tomixornot
Thanks. I'm gonna spend sometime going back to X3 to complete my project and check. As far as I remembered, there is no such problem with X3.
 
2015/07/05 18:55:06
Notecrusher
Klaus
tomixornot
>Here is the video

https://youtu.be/l3j9houF39E
 
Does this look like a bug ? If yes, I'm going ahead to file a bug report.




Hi,
I can't reproduce this behaviour, but in your video it looks like if the right button of your mouse is performing a fast double click instead a single click.
I've had a similar problem with a mouse some years ago which performed a (left) double click instead a single click, not from the beginning but it got worse over time.
 




That doesn't explain it. Right double-click doesn't show properties. 
2015/07/05 19:02:18
Notecrusher
williamcopper
To answer Anderton's question midway above, what to do with note zones?    A) leave out velocity altogether, why in the world have that as a zone when it is available two other good ways (controller pane, or "show velocity with note")  B) we want to drag a notes' length, perhaps:  ok possibly one zone on the right side.  C) other than that, we want to move a note vertically or horizontally, and that should depend entirely on the direction of the mouse movement, NOT on whether we click in some particular place.    We might want to open the properties, so that's a good use for either right click or double click, but make it CONFIGURABLE.    I can't think many people would miss being able to lengthen a note to the left, but if so, then MAKE IT CONFIGURABLE.     If configurable is too difficult then look at sonar 3 through 8 .... that worked, was simple, never made me curse cakewalk.




In the inline PRV there's no controller pane and I don't consider that a good solution in the main PRV either -- I need to see the velocities on the notes. And how does "show velocity with note" help you EDIT velocity? There simply will never be a satisfactory smart tool, nor any other drawing tool so long as Cakewalk decides how they should function. People have individual workflows. 
 
williamcopper
MAKE IT CONFIGURABLE.

 
BINGO.
2015/07/05 19:06:43
Doktor Avalanche
I cannot repro with Platinum E.
I'd like to see a video with the full screen. Or at least a screenshot immediately after the issue.
I would also recommend the OP runs windows update, updates his chipset drivers (on intel driver update) and considers a motherboard BIOS update in case this is a hardware issue or some problem with windows not receiving the KVM messages correctly.
2015/07/06 01:25:06
Tunerman
I spent most of today editing MIDI.  And had the same problem as the OP. It got to be very frustrating to say the least!
 
Just as he experienced, it would often take several attempts to lasso a group of notes w/o the Properties box appearing. I'd try lassoing a thin box (everything the box touches should activate) and it didn't work. Try to lasso large areas, like most of the notes within the box, and still get properties dialogue. Over and over until it 'stuck' and I could edit as I wanted.
 
Didn't try to pin down the problem and find a solution today as I didn't have the time to stop what I was doing. I'll have more time in the next few days to research.
 
Just reinforcing what the OP reported. Left-click, hold and lasso is not working as intended for me.
2015/07/06 04:50:18
Klaus
Notecrusher
Klaus
tomixornot
>Here is the video

https://youtu.be/l3j9houF39E
 
Does this look like a bug ? If yes, I'm going ahead to file a bug report.




Hi,
I can't reproduce this behaviour, but in your video it looks like if the right button of your mouse is performing a fast double click instead a single click.
I've had a similar problem with a mouse some years ago which performed a (left) double click instead a single click, not from the beginning but it got worse over time.
 




That doesn't explain it. Right double-click doesn't show properties. 


That's not what I said. Right click, hold and lasso - followed by another "faulty" right click after releasing the button would produce what I see in his video.
Anyway, if he doesn't have that problem in X3, then the reason is obviously not a defective mouse.
 
2015/07/06 05:10:31
tomixornot
Tunerman
I spent most of today editing MIDI.  And had the same problem as the OP. It got to be very frustrating to say the least!
 
Just as he experienced, it would often take several attempts to lasso a group of notes w/o the Properties box appearing. I'd try lassoing a thin box (everything the box touches should activate) and it didn't work. Try to lasso large areas, like most of the notes within the box, and still get properties dialogue. Over and over until it 'stuck' and I could edit as I wanted.
 
Didn't try to pin down the problem and find a solution today as I didn't have the time to stop what I was doing. I'll have more time in the next few days to research.
 
Just reinforcing what the OP reported. Left-click, hold and lasso is not working as intended for me.




Tunerman, just checking, do make sure the Smart Tool is ON, otherwise you will sure hit the problem.
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