Anderton
 
 
 Granted, there have been plenty of people who made a similar entrance, saw that help was on the way, got things sorted out eventually, and have become contributors to our "group consciousness." 

 
I tend to think of us as a collective and yeah, we have all been assimilated

Well back in the old days you could quote RTFM or USTFSE but I guess with all the crack heads and ice heads around nowadays maybe they need a nursery for musical drug heads that wanna record.
People are so impatient these days.
I can remember when Gibson's didn't tune themselves. 
In the days before digital tuners and robot guitars, Maybe a tuning fork was a harsh learning curve for me!
I can still tune manually way quicker than a robot.

Beepster-
That said I knew it was going to be a challenge so tossed my crotch berries right into the thick of it (and this forum) until I could actually do some more useful stuff.
 
crotch berries...I gotta remember that one...I learn a new term here almost every day between you and yorolpal 
 
 

ShellstaX

Anderton
I"m currently talking with a school in India that wants to use SONAR as its default DAW for recording courses. Apparently they need something really versatile that runs on Windows.

What's to stop them doing so?

 
Nothing, but they'd like a teacher's guide and hopefully, some training to jump start the process.
 

g_randybrown
Beepster-
That said I knew it was going to be a challenge so tossed my crotch berries right into the thick of it (and this forum) until I could actually do some more useful stuff.
 
crotch berries...I gotta remember that one...I learn a new term here almost every day between you and yorolpal 
 

HTH
 
;-p

I suspect the original poster was frustrated with the complexity rather than seeking advice about college. However, taking posts at face value is not out of the question. In fact, college courses are not hypothetical solutions.
 
Most colleges and community colleges have music departments with applicable courses, and some have Sonar-specific offerings. For example, Bismarck State has at least three courses that could be helpful:
 
MUSC 172-Introduction to Digital Audio Workstations (F&S, 2 credits)
MUSC 178-Intro to Cakewalk Sonar Studio and Producer (F&S, 2 credits)
MUSC 280-Advanced Cakewalk SONAR (Spring, 2 credits)
http://www.bismarckstate.edu/academics/programsjo/music/courses/Default.asp?printable=1
 
Berklee College of Music has multiple applicable courses as well:
Introduction to Music Production
https://www.coursera.org/course/musicproduction
 
Desktop Music Production for PC
http://online.berklee.edu/courses/desktop-music-production-for-pc#!syllabus
 
Producing Music with SONAR
http://online.berklee.edu/courses/producing-music-with-sonar?&program=music%5fproduction
 
Other less expensive and less intensive resources have already been mentioned in this thread.
Edited to add: the syllabus information for these courses can be a good starting point for self-directed learning.

sycle1
I can still tune manually way quicker than a robot.

Just a funny aside to that...I joined Gibson right after MinETune was introduced. I thought it would be cool to find someone who could tune faster than the robot tuning, sort of a "Kasparov Beats IBM Computer!" thing. So I proposed a "Beat the Robot" contest at Frankfurt Musikmesse where anyone who could tune faster than MinETune would get a Les Paul Standard. Seven guitars were all detuned by the same amount. Six didn't have MinETune, one did.
 
IIRC we ran six contests per day for three days, but it was kind of a fail because nobody ever did beat the robot, even though quite a few of the contestants assured us they could. Eventually we gave up, and let whoever came closest win the guitar. We did it again at NAMM and again at Frankfurt, but no one has ever been able to tune faster than MinETune. The new G Force is faster, so I don't know if we'll ever find someone who can "beat the robot."

rwheeler
I suspect the original poster was frustrated with the complexity rather than seeking advice about college. However, taking posts at face value is not out of the question. In fact, college courses are not hypothetical solutions.

This is really great info. Too bad it will likely get lost in this thread. I'll alert the Bakers to this, maybe it's time for addition to the web site. Thanks for your diligence!

Anderton
 
so I don't know if we'll ever find someone who can "beat the robot."

I doubt that you ever will, I have never seen one in real life, only in a video clip, and well, good luck with that. Don't know that I am a fan of it, the robotune, but I think it's just something that bucks against tradition, hence the 'traditionalists' aren't keen on it, and it will either fade away into the past, or maybe one day become 'tradition' itself.