• SONAR
  • Can we route a track to more than one bus yet?? (p.2)
2015/07/03 18:15:05
charlyg
Maybe we're all bozos on this bus.....but I digress.
2015/07/03 18:23:37
OldTimerNewComer
yorolpal
Yup...that would do it Craig but I don't know why you couldn't route a single tracks output to two different busses. You wouldn't be returning anything to the track. You'd simply be outputting the busses to your master.

I know what you are talking about.
The only program I know that does this is REAPER. It allows assignment of as many
INPUT/OUTPUTS from/to a TRACK as a user deems necessary, output to any available on your interface(s).
Also, REAPER doesn't make a distinction between tracks and busses so
setting up parallel processing is easy in one view.
 
If this what you are after, why not make a feature request or get a bunch of folks to
do so in order to raise it's priority to the Bakers?
 
Mel
2015/07/03 18:26:07
yorolpal
Yes. That is what I'm after...thanks.
2015/07/03 18:44:21
jih64
OldTimerNewComer
I know what you are talking about.
The only program I know that does this is REAPER. It allows assignment of as many
INPUT/OUTPUTS from/to a TRACK as a user deems necessary, output to any available on your interface(s).
Also, REAPER doesn't make a distinction between tracks and busses so
setting up parallel processing is easy in one view.
 
Mel




+1 REAPER is a very capable bit of gear, with many handy and desirable features, I think a lot of people get hung up on the depth of configure-ability it has, and the look and interface, the latter 2 can be overcome via custom themes, of which there are many, the former, well it's really just a one time set and forget for the most part, all be it quite depthy, and with the custom floating toolbars, life can be made really as you wish it. 
2015/07/03 18:49:46
OldTimerNewComer
An easy and quick work-around, if you happen to own REAPER,
would be to use REAPER as a REWIRE Slave.
 
Route whatever outputs from tracks to appropriate ones in REAPER
through REWIRE, then do your parallel processing THERE.
Route the REAPER output to a Master Bus in SONAR.
 
SONAR's Audio Engine would still control the final output that way,
so no loss in audio quality, I would expect.
This is what I would do as I prefer SONAR's engine to REAPER's.
 
Mel
2015/07/03 19:05:24
Jesse G
yorolpal
No...not a send...that's how I do it now.  I mean just the ability to insert more than one bus on a track so it gets sent to two different busses.  Like on analog consoles of old.  The easiest (read lazy-assed...yet most efficient) way to set up parallel compression, say.  Buss 1 is your main drum buss...Buss 2 is your squash the livin bejeezus out of it.  Route to both and season to taste in the mix.  Also, it's more intuitive...at least to me and a bunch of other old school engineers. 
 
Guess not then.  Fine and dandy.  I'll just keep "sendin" as per usual :-)
 
PS: I changed the title to, hopefully, avoid confusion.




 
Cakewalk documents using sends as the ONLY way to perform parallel compression in Sonar and suggest using them.  I guess they were aware other DAWS had other ways of performing this.
 
Please read their Parallel Compression Setup Blog for Sonar
 
 
2015/07/03 19:18:28
OldTimerNewComer
Jesse G
yorolpal
No...not a send...that's how I do it now.  I mean just the ability to insert more than one bus on a track so it gets sent to two different busses.  Like on analog consoles of old.  The easiest (read lazy-assed...yet most efficient) way to set up parallel compression, say.  Buss 1 is your main drum buss...Buss 2 is your squash the livin bejeezus out of it.  Route to both and season to taste in the mix.  Also, it's more intuitive...at least to me and a bunch of other old school engineers. 
 
Guess not then.  Fine and dandy.  I'll just keep "sendin" as per usual :-)
 
PS: I changed the title to, hopefully, avoid confusion.




 
Cakewalk documents using sends as the ONLY way to perform parallel compression in Sonar and suggest using them.  I guess they were aware other DAWS had other ways of performing this.
 
Please read their Parallel Compression Setup Blog for Sonar
 
 


 
Jesse G
"in Sonar"

 
The thing I love most about DAWs, and computers in general, is the many ways
different programs can be extended 3rd party.
I am quite sure the Bakers were thinking of this when they decided to implement ReWire.
 
I don't think it diminishes EITHER program to be easily used in concert with another.
 
Mel
2015/07/03 19:26:36
Keni
I think I understand what he wants and the methods spoken of should suffice...

But if another alternative is desired, how about using the user-created plugin... I think it's called sidechain that allows you to send to another input... This can be placed anywhere in the fx chain to create a split point... Send to the other input and wallup it with the desired comp an have the actual output of each of the two inputs to go to a common drum bus?
2015/07/03 19:45:12
OldTimerNewComer
Keni
I think I understand what he wants and the methods spoken of should suffice...

But if another alternative is desired, how about using the user-created plugin... I think it's called sidechain that allows you to send to another input... This can be placed anywhere in the fx chain to create a split point... Send to the other input and wallup it with the desired comp an have the actual output of each of the two inputs to go to a common drum bus?

excellent.
2015/07/03 19:49:46
Jesse G
I totally forgot about the sidechain plugin, very good catch Keni, ... Very good indeed.
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